#143

Hi - is there a way to save your pattern / song via the pset - i couldn’t retrieve anything i thought i’d saved via pset.

#144

I think it just saves its own state in a separate file - but TBH I can’t remember.

But a very reasonable request next time I get some time on this …

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#145

yes, its saving just the state in pset and not any of the song preset or any pattern data.
Whatever you can do would be appreciated.

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#147

Hey @coreyr you said “ Kria midi has totally changed how I sequence modular via norns and crow, looking forward to freeing them back up and having control for 4 voices at once!”

Interesting path, as a new Monome costumer and waiting for Ansible next week and Norns to be available soon, I would love to hear you elaborate on that, despite I’ll have to wait grabbing a Crow for an essential lack of knowledge about Max I guess (I’m working on it), it’s difficult for me to immagine what I can accomplish by myself with that nice, slim, black module …
What intriguing me in your post is that you mentioned Kria Midi passing through Norns to go to your modular with Crow(right?) and I’m curious to know what this path can bring to the table differently from a straight Ansible-Kria/Modular connection? More and different controls? I’m missing Max maybe??

#148

I don’t actually work with max at all personally. I thought that I would use crow more as a scriptable utility module, though in practice it has been a bridge between Norns and a small system. As crow only has 4 outputs (very versatile, but usually cv & gate or envelope pairs fir me) I can only make use of 2 of the 4 lanes of sequencing in kria.

When I use crow solo, I pick a useful script from the Bowery collection, maybe make a couple of tweaks in druid, load it up and keep that scrip loaded for quite some time. Currently it is loaded with gingerbread.lua, a little chaos is good.

With ansible, I will be able to run the grid directly into the modular and get 4 lanes of highly flexible cv/gate sequencing, allowing me to run other things on norns and crow again. Crow will likely be used as some kind of bridge between norns and the modular (for clock sharing and other duties) but I’m not entirely sure until it arrives.

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#149

I’ll probably get a Crow in a near future, but I need to jump in to .lua a little bit first. I don’t understand nothing at the moment, I think Crow would be useful even with just the available codes to use it like a bridge from Norns/modular of course, but i feel like I’d underuse it like that…
And of course I need a Norns!
Right now I’m on the Monome shop page like a crow on a tree waiting for it :laughing:

#150

A point of clarification here: Kria is a sequencer that runs natively on Ansible, and gives you 4 pairs of gate/cv— in other words four voices.

Kria on norns is a port of the Ansible script. It can output audio, midi notes, and can also connect to crow. As crow has only four outs, it cannot offer the same number of discrete voices.

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#151

Thank you, Matt. I could definitely have been clearer in my description of how I use what…

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#152

Yes thanks! What had intrigued me it’s been what @coreyr wrote and I copied above, I thought initially that he prefer to use kria midi trough crow and Norns than Ansible/kria directly with modular.

#153

FYI adding a second crow connected via ii to the first one should make it possible to get four tracks out of norns Kria with some changes to the script, I don’t think it currently supports it :slight_smile:

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#154

One solution that’s just occurred to me is to use the crow outs for for cv and 4 outputs from Just Friends to do envelopes? I have just got hold of a crow and have a JF on loan from, fittingly, a friend. If I have time I’ll have a quick look to see if I can get this going, can post my edits if they work and there’s any interest.

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#155

This is a more general question but thought I would ask here since it’s for the sake of this script:

How to Norns Midi -> Ableton?

I did the most immediate dumb thing of “plug USB from one to the other” and yeah that’s a no go.

Do I need a midi interface for this? (if so, I’d be interested to learn why – and also to learn what minimal-but-USB-C-compatible option exists for this end). Have spent the past hour up and down the forum and I see lots of people using interfaces to achieve what appear to be similar ends, but I’m not totally sure why / how and it seems funny to get basically a series of small boxes with different cable ends (USB -> 5-Pin, 5-Pin -> USB, USB -> USB-C) and my cable algebra wants to simplify the equations…

The idea is to transition out of euro eventually while maintaining my favorite pieces of functionality (Kria, Faderbank, semi-random CV)

Also small note @junklight, the top post still links to an outdated github link. If you could update that it’d be a joy (got bit by this earlier – current set up has issues connecting to Maiden for some reason…).

#156

If I remember correctly the crow out is supported via a library module it installs. You can add functions to this to get new output combinations. Like using ansible or just friends. New functions should appear in the menus. The script is in data dir (do updates don’t overwrite it)

#157

@yams norns is a USB host, like most other computers with operating systems

it’s not “normal” to connect two hosts together so it requires some device(s) in between that can talk to both and perform some arbitrary translation between them. just as if you wanted to send MIDI between two laptops.

i kinda thought this was well-covered on the forum:

TL/DR: the “iconnect” products by sevillasoft are a commercially-available solution, and okyeron’s “2host” (linked above) is a DIY solution (basically, two teensy-based devices which forward all MIDI messages between them.) the other option is to use two separate USB-MIDI interfaces with a serial MIDI connection between them.

but simply connecting USB cable is unfortunately not ever going to work.

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#158

I use midi connect unit to do this. Search on my name here & you should find me talking about it.

I’ve been having a “fallow” period without music for a bit but starting to think about it again. I’ll catch up on updates soonish hopefully

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#159

Could this script be modified to control just friends via crow? I just purchased a just friends so im thinking about a norns/crow/grid combo to go with it.

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#160

it should be rather easy to add just friends via crow ii output, i recently modified loom to do the same. i may take care of this eventually but am currently focusing on other projects, here’s the loom commit if anyone would like to take a stab at it: added crow cv/just friends ii output · markwheeler/loom@9957aca · GitHub

i highly recommend the norns/crow/grid/jf combo! that is essentially the heart of my small modular system, grid controlling jf in synth mode can be loads of fun.

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#161

so the last Kria MIDI did have crow support (as far as I can remember) AND it does it via an extensible library. If you look in the data directory you’ll see it installs a Lua file in there with function in it - you can add functions to this to do crow things (or anything else you fancy)

The reason it puts it in the data dir is so you can modify it and updates (not that I’ve gotten round to that much) won’t overwrite it AND you can share them

I’ve probably not documented this very much but it should be really easy to add. I do notice that @Galapagoose has hinted there may be another run of JF and if the winds of fortune happen to be blowing in my direction when they are available I would like to pick one up - in which case I will add ‘out of the box’ support

As noted elsewhere I’ve (like everyone else to be fair) had an odd year and didn’t do much music or work on my various scripts and apps. Really hoping to change that soon (although currently easing back into things were my various projects don’t need code writing first :slight_smile: )

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#162

Just an FYI for you junklight as I believe you’re in the UK(?). JF is currently available at signal sounds I just picked one up from there

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#163

oh cool - thank you for letting me know! just need the awaited bit of news on the financial front to arrive now :slight_smile:

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