i don’t know if it’s important but watching it for a little longer i see

crow: [string “eval”]:2: unexpected symbol near ‘5’
crow: [string “eval”]:1: attempt to index a nil value (field ‘vooutput’)
crow: [string “eval”]:2: unexpected symbol near ‘5’
crow: [string “eval”]:2: unexpected symbol near ‘5’
crow: [string “eval”]:2: unexpected symbol near ‘5’
crow: [string “eval”]:2: unexpected symbol near ‘5’
crow: [string “eval”]:2: unexpected symbol near ‘5’

not sure if this is apropos here and i’ll gladly help or take direction if i missed something on this! pp

I’m honestly not sure! I didn’t test any of those suggestions, so I’m sure something’s weird. I can spend some time on this later today.

quick q: did it persist after you rebooted crow?

follow-up q: how are you using all of these voices (passersby + jf + crow sequencing)? I’m genuinely curious!

Ok since you asked
In this synth I am sampling from “shifted -appropriation stories” for a beat sampled into W/ and my next step is trigger the samples with crow but first I needed a voice that was tempo controllable to the sample and the built in voices are so very nice for this.

The Norns sound comes into mixup directly with the backend cables for 1/4 inch in to Mixup. It’s gorgeous btw.

JF changes from percussives to drones, mangrove is bass and plaits was my wildcard but I’m trading it out for an eowave domino for a “traditional” acid bass line voice.

The randomize function on More Concepts (duplicate with changes) is awesomeness

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Just a quick note on my experience using the stand-alone less concepts script on crow: It always runs fine until I try to upload it onto my crow. It’s all good until I restart my modular. After that, I have to force the bootloader, and run the erase userscript command every time to get back to normal. Not sure if it’s my crow, or something in the code that’s having that effect but just wanted to let you know.
I’m running 1.0.2.

You certainly should update the firmware then I had similar behaviors and had to boot everything just right until the update and now stuff is much more stable. I always turn on my modular with crow connected when the stars appear on Norns

This works and kills btw

oh! cool! so you’re just seeing random crow errors then, no audible performance issues? it is doing quite a bit in the “whole shebang” method, so as long as nothing’s going too far sideways I guess we’re good!

also, that patch sounds like an awesome use of everything – wowowow!

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I’ll take a look, thanks for the report + apologies for the troubles!

edit: @scotttburton, yeah I was able to replicate pretty easily. idk what the exact trouble is, but for sure the script is doing some weird lil things. I’ll try some changes, but please do not upload the script in this state – it is 100% working if you run, as you mentioned. sorry for the letdown :confused:

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correct NO performance issues
i moved it over and changed it’s name so i can follow any changes you make and have a tweakable [breakable version too

thank you sincerely for the help and discussion i am making music because of this patch [a friend i showed and did the double headphones wiggle/tweak with called it "Deliciously Nerdy’ – a fun filled romp for the whole family [JK}

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I really like Less Concepts. Fun to use it at a slower tempo

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I have a quick question about crow and programming output ports!

I was looking at this post you gave to have the JF notes of less_concepts also send voltage out:

Less concepts Library

if you mean to send to JF + the crow outs at the same time, then it’d just take a little modification of the script! I think you’d basically want to: add a 5th option at the end of the set in this line (maybe “JF + crow cv”?) add to the end of this if condition: elseif value == 5 then crow.ii.jf.mode(1) crow.output[2].action = “{to(5,0),to(0,0.25)}” crow.output[4].action = “{to(5,0),to(0,0.25)}” add after this line: elseif params:get(“output”) == 5 then i…

I was wondering if you could give me some tips about how this ends up working. Does this mean that outputs 2 and 4 are outputting the cv? I can’t quite figure out what ports 1 and 3 are doing. I also haven’t really looked further in to it, so this is me being lazy, but what would be the code necessary to use ports 1 & 3 as LFO’s?

took the opportunity to fold in all the changes that have been discussed in the last months’ posts.

@shreeswifty – you can safely pull the update! we’ve got crow cv + jf paired and engine + cv + jf simultaneous! switching the output param between them all is super super fun, thank you for asking about it!!


@kasselvania, the crow cv + jf mode acts like this:

  • output 1 + 3: note CV
  • output 2 + 4: trigger pulses at note-on

advice depends on your end goal. if you don’t want to use either of the existing crow CV modes (so, either choose “output + midi” or “crow ii JF” for the output modes), you can do this on the command line:

crow.output[*ID*].action = "lfo(*rate in seconds*,*amplitude in volts*)" to define the action
and then crow.output[*ID*]() to start the action.

eg:

crow.output[1].action = "lfo(1,5)"
crow.output[1]()

more info can be found here: https://monome.org/docs/crow/norns/#4-shapes

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Yes! This is exactly what I wanted to know. Very very cool. Now to find the time to give it a spin! :crazy_face:

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@dan_derks
i cannot get JF to respond to the updates i noticed that the “enable pullups” menu is not there

hmm, version 1.0.2 of crow has pull-ups enabled by default so i removed the menu item because there’s no realistic case to disable them anymore. is maiden suggesting they aren’t enabled when you run less concepts? and are you running 1.0.2?

i did the update restarted, and left my version be as we discussed. When i switch to Less Concepts no JF --everything works except for it. i have two crows so let me double check the version.

sorry for the noise, i had one at 1.02, one at 1.0.0 all good
TY!

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hi – this is not at all typical, definitely sounds like something local.

I found your message to help@monome.org, will reply there! sorry to hear about the trouble :confused:

edit: to close the public loop, the update referenced in the previous message was the crow 1.0.2 update, not any updates to individual scripts. I’m hoping that updating the scripts will clear it all up :slight_smile:

hey @dan_derks how does one submit a patch to maiden?

Are you asking about putting in a github pull request to add something to less_concepts? Or releasing your own new script for people To download to their norns?

If it’s a new script, go ahead and create a post in the Library section! If its to make some additions, changes or potential bug fixes to less_concepts (or another already released script) that would happen on github.

If you’re releasing a new script in the Library section, eventually @ngwese will add it to the maiden library section.

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