Livid Block & Sensel Morph

trickyflemming · 2018-08-24T20:30:03.679Z

carltesta:

Have you used the Sensel Morph with norns much? Do you use it in MIDI mode or HID mode more?

I actually have not used any MIDI with the Norns yet. There’s a big MIDI update coming soon (along with a study), so I’m waiting for that before I dive deeper with external connections.

doublecoolbossman · 2018-08-25T15:52:16.315Z

Got it going with the shuttle control

shreeswifty · 2018-08-25T18:22:54.174Z

I have been communicating with Roald Baudoux who authored the rb.sensel patches that work with max and break out a variety of data streams for the device. I am hoping someone who is more adept at compiling externals for Pure Data might read this. Roald shared his sources with me – he has NOT placed them on github yet and we would like to develop a few nice performance patches for Max & Pure Data for the Sensel. I really like the expressivness of the velocity coming form the device [at least in max so far]

Anyone in llines country compiled externals for Pd? We could pay you for your efforts if need be.

sincerely

Patrick

shreeswifty · 2018-08-25T18:26:23.789Z

ALSO

Anyone have a Livid Instruments block?
I have a working version of Axiome [originally by Gwen Coffey], brought to version 2 by a finnish dev and vesrion 3 deluxe by myself [full midi and monome implementation + support for the XPC 4k4F midi breakout [gives reverb & EQ on the Master tracks]]

It’s all working for linux [axiome uses shell object that does not work on windows as far as i have been able to see]

okyeron · 2018-08-25T19:23:08.608Z

I have Block (and other Livids).

Do you need some testing? Would this work on RasPi?

greaterthanzero · 2018-08-25T21:37:49.510Z

shreeswifty:

I have been communicating with Roald Baudoux who authored the rb.sensel patches that work with max and break out a variety of data streams for the device.

I’ll have to seek that out. I’m rather dissatisfied with the official [sensel] object in the package manager, because it doesn’t send “touch released” messages. (read: “note off”)

(I did make a working fix for that, though, if anyone wants it)

shreeswifty · 2018-08-26T00:39:55.993Z

I would love it I’m trying to aggregate as much stuff as I can

shreeswifty · 2018-08-26T01:20:37.056Z

And I’ll test it with my blokas box tomorrow and if it doesn’t slow down too insaneley I’ll post it

greaterthanzero · 2018-08-27T11:48:17.299Z

shreeswifty:

I would love it I’m trying to aggregate as much stuff as I can

Cleaned up an example for you. Hopefully isn’t too crazy.

Pastebin

Max 7: Sensel Morph input processing for on-the-fly mapping - Pastebin.com

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carltesta · 2018-08-28T01:26:24.354Z

Got the Sensel morph today and just played it with the SenselApp visualizer for a few minutes and whoa! This thing is super responsive and the dynamic range is huge! Can’t wait to get this running with some of my patches.

shreeswifty · 2018-08-29T23:07:36.492Z

i am hoping i can convince someone to make a pd object
i can code pd and make almost anything but compiling externals is still beyond me
Any Pd folks on here with one?
I know shot in the dark but…

shreeswifty · 2018-08-29T23:08:03.549Z

thank you!! so much i will check it tonight

lijnenspel · 2018-11-08T17:27:19.752Z

So I just got a Sensel Morph for a non-music project (one hand chording keyboard) and I’m amazed by the multi touch and sensitivity. Kind of got me thinking on how to use for expressive music gestures without using the standard piano or music production overlay. How are you all using it?

greaterthanzero · 2018-12-16T00:57:46.219Z

I keep getting sidetracked, but the plan was always to rebuild this, with support for one handed ensembles (plus the obvious pressure sensitivity):

(the pastebin link above was made specifically for that)

greaterthanzero · 2018-12-16T01:04:44.966Z

shreeswifty:

I am hoping i can convince someone to make a pd object
i can code pd and make almost anything but compiling externals is still beyond me
Any Pd folks on here with one?
I know shot in the dark but…

Tim Thompson’s your guy.

Not for pd specifically, but close enough:

GitHub

GitHub - nosuchtim/MorphOsc: Use the Sensel Morph to interact with...

Use the Sensel Morph to interact with OSC-capable software like Resolume and Plogue Bidule. - GitHub - nosuchtim/MorphOsc: Use the Sensel Morph to interact with OSC-capable software like Resolume a...

(worth calling out specifically, this supports multiple units, as seen in Tim’s on “Space Palette Pro”)

shreeswifty · 2020-04-04T14:53:10.701Z

Sensel

Buchla Thunder Overlay

The legendary expressive controller, the Buchla Thunder, now comes to the Sensel Morph in an exclusive new partnership with Buchla U.S.A. The Buchla Thunder Overlay exclusively features a new preset system to the Morph. By holding the preset...

Good News
Apparently there is a sensel morph object now for Pure Data!
I was holding off on another one [i gave my nephew my last one because i was not using it] but it now Morph talking nicely to pd makes me want to do a project with it

I ordered the Buchla Thunda overlay and i am thinking perhap a patch that integrates with the overlay

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what kind of patch should i write for it? something performative --has anyone tried it with NRNS?

i would love some suggestions for a patch spark

synthetivv · 2020-04-04T22:38:34.182Z

Sorry to reply to a freshly bumped thread in a way that’s not related to the recent bump, but I’ve been tempted by the Sensel Morph a few times lately and I too am curious how others feel about it. The form factor™ and price point™ are pretty compelling.

One thing I’ve seen in several videos (here, for instance) that seems really weird to me: bending notes by moving your finger all the way across the surface. This seems like a totally different MPE paradigm from, say, the Continuum (where you can press the C “key,” then move your finger to E, and the pitch bends up to E), and it makes infinitely less sense to me. I feel like this would be so unintuitive as to be useless. Is that behavior locked in, or can it be adjusted? Is there a way to get it to respond in a more Continuum-like way? (or Seaboard-like, I guess?)

(edit: this is another video where I thought I had seen that behavior, but looking at it again, I’m less sure. Maybe the x-axis-to-pitch correspondence is more sensible when you’re using the keyboard overlay?)

Dogma · 2020-04-05T00:23:22.725Z

I was for some reason hooked on getting a Roli but hank you for the sense morph intro! Im a frustrated drummer so seeing that theres a drum overlay and I can actually play with sticks is killer for me

greaterthanzero · 2020-04-05T16:15:43.052Z

synthetivv:

This seems like a totally different MPE paradigm from, say, the Continuum (where you can press the C “key,” then move your finger to E, and the pitch bends up to E), and it makes infinitely less sense to me. I feel like this would be so unintuitive as to be useless. Is that behavior locked in, or can it be adjusted? Is there a way to get it to respond in a more Continuum-like way? (or Seaboard-like, I guess?)

The continuum bends notes by moving your finger all the way across the surface. If you slide from C to E, it stops because you stopped. If you slide from C to E three octaves higher, it slides three octaves higher.

That first video you linked is using a very specific overlay, based on an experimental synth controller that precedes MPE by many years. I don’t know that it used pitch bend in quite this way, but it wouldn’t surprise me.

Anyway, yes. Bending to pitches is sort of an abstract challenge if pitches aren’t laid out at a fixed interval along one axis.

There’s a secondary trick in play, where a controller can apply varying amounts of pitch quantization as your finger approaches its destination. When pitches are laid out on two axis, bending calls for a more robust algorithm. Geoshred (on iOS) does thus well, but that’s really the exception.

Your second video, with the piano layout, is indeed more intuitive in the way you’d expect.

synthetivv · 2020-04-05T17:20:36.622Z

greaterthanzero:

The continuum bends notes by moving your finger all the way across the surface. If you slide from C to E, it stops because you stopped. If you slide from C to E three octaves higher, it slides three octaves higher.

Yeah, sorry, I phrased that poorly. What I meant was that the video featuring the Thunder overlay shows that the bent pitch you’d get from starting a touch at point A and moving to point B is determined only by the physical distance between A and B, not by the interval between the pitches assigned to those points. Given that it looks like you can assign any pitch you want to any “key” you want, I get that the latter would be a lot trickier to implement… I’m just being a bratty end user, I guess. Or a bratty potential end user (even worse).