I won’t be selling my Rainmaker to get one, but this does seem pretty neat. I could potentially see switching out my Doepfer BBD if I get tired of that. :slight_smile:

I definitely want to hear a proper demo in stereo without the Superbooth noise, and simpler input, to get a better feel for its character.

I’m guessing Zone is some kind of macro control over multitap, or something like it. And I’m curious what the μ input is.

Zone seemed to be more like the size of the loops than number of repeats or rate of repeats. Like the zone control could go from tiny, microsound slices up to a few second loops.

The u might be a macro control, following the lines on the panel, so it would control Halo, Color and Rate.

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Ah… Rate is the overall delay time, but Zone is maybe sort of a reset of the play head within the buffer? Not quite taps then.

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In the description of Zones (around 3:00) I see some overlap with Morphagene, it will be very interesting to see how all of these new generation of MN modules play together.

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This sounds like a really fun and flexible system.

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seriously! who needs an oscillator?? i love the direction of this generation of make noise modules.

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Seems like with “longer” zone lengths you could kind of emulate Morphs TLA mode but with a little more control :drooling_face:

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could µ be the mean repeats across the stereo field (of which is being skewed if you imagine it like a distribution of repeat times)? I’m guessing as it’s lined up near the skew button.

I’m curious to know what is the smallest delay time ( ‘Zone’ size? [window size?]). I know in the sonic state video they asked about karplus strong so i’d imagine it to be very short.

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I probably will be! Even though it’s so powerful, I’ve just never really been able to gel with the interface. Switching back and forth between tap vs global edit has never been great for me.

I really like how immediate the Mimephon seems.

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Kind of nuts but I’m agreeing more and more. At least, there’s just a teeny tiny bit of oscillator in things I’ve been doing lately, but at some point the sampling, layering, effects take over. Accumulating reels in Morphagene, forgetting about them, then playing them back later has become my composition method of choice. The new MN stuff seems to support and encourage that path.

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It seems like a really interesting and deep instrument, with simple and effective controls. It feels like a blend of Ecophone, Erbe-Verb, and Morphagene features.

I really admire their design philosophy and instrument design skills. To me it feels like a bit of an art — I get a lot of entertainment out of dissecting their design decisions, because they’re often elegant solutions to user interaction problems. An example of that is the different re-pitching behaviour for rate, wether it’s clocked or un-clocked. I also love that they include tiny extra features that add to the instrument’s patchability — you often find extra gate and cv signal inputs and outputs which you don’t normally expect from a generic module fulfilling a similar purpose. This one has a strike input — I’m intrigued to know what it does. Maybe just a noise burst from karplus-strong? I also don’t quite get how zone works, but I’m excited to find out in the manual eventually!

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From @ebremot himself:

I’m taking the MP in an entirely different direction than the EP. In short Echophon: aggressive, dirty, low-res delay; Mimeophon: clear, deep, spacious, wide-range delay. I also want to hit all my favorite delay sounds in a compact module (flanging, stereo chorusing, either a dark, resonant, mid-heavy, bright, compressed, distorted or diffused feedback , combing, looping, UFOs, sonic booms) with lots of polyrhythmic (stereo-rhythmic?) clock options. all with just a few knobs and gates…

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Any sign of a price yet?

I wasn’t that interested until I heard that PC demo @desolationjones posted. Not going to be an early adopter, but will probably pick one up on the second hand market. It sounds amazing and will be a nice companion to the Echophon, which I love and plan to keep.

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Tom replied to my question about the μ control:

it’s a direct modulation input that is suitable for chorus, capstan wobble, Doppler, etc. with skew the modulation is inverted on one of the channels (the left one).

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Wow, that video really makes things more clear, sounds absolutely fantastic. Super nice to see them shaving a few hp off things here and there as well.

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Just when I thought I had too many delays…this looks/sounds great.

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Another thoughtful Make Noise module! Looks like it has some interesting support jacks as usual.

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It’s possible to have too many delays?

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