#584

Ah… if I crank the volume of that recording up beyond where I’d normally listen, then yes, I hear it.

After some experimenting: Natural Gate with no input and gate closed, through one of the analog connections to my audio interface, gives that noise. With the gate open, it picks up LFSR noise from the nearby Zorlon Cannon without patching it in. But if I go through the ES-6 instead, I just get some white noise at a slightly lower level. So yeah, probably due to unshielded cables.

I just never really noticed because of the noisy nature of my music, and I’m still not sure whether it matters to me. I kind of want to sample the noise and use it on purpose :grin:

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#585

Honestly, I think your music is good so you should do whatever works. When I was younger, I didn’t give a shit about any of this stuff and I wrote a lot more music with a RAT pedal and piece of garbage solid state amp. I was happier. You should sample the noise and use it on purpose! The noise itself doesn’t sound bad on its own, it’s more the noise gating I don’t like. I prefer to do that myself, not have it imposed on me.

I had similar thing happen to me with NG and nearby module.

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#586

I will revise my earlier comment and say that yeah, the gating doesn’t sound especially good or desirable for me. I experimented with my own Mimeophon and the gating was awkward enough that it stood out in a dry mix. I think I simply never had these problems because I’ve never been going 100% dry for Mimeophon when it’s in my signal path. Most of the time it’s 50-100% wet, with liberal swaths of halo and/or color, and at those settings the noise is a feature, not a bug (more akin to the pleasing imperfections of tape hiss). Fully dry, it’s not all that pleasing of a sound, but based on my uses this is going to be a non-factor for me; mileage will vary depending on others’ uses and needs. (The effects loop trick with stackcables is easy to implement and good to know in general, thanks for that)

#587

Yes, it’s unfortunate. But the wet signal to vca mixer is a solution, and what one would do for a rack unit.

This is the only delay in eurorack I’ve heard that can compare to a good rack delay, in terms of tone.

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#588

Indeed; the module sounds so good to me, and satisfies so much of what I want better than any similar module in its class, that it’s admittedly hard to know if I’m just making ad hoc justifications based on my love for it, rather than more unbiased ones. I mean, I definitely think I’m listening and thinking critically, but everyone thinks that about themselves, right?

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#589

Has anyone managed to get this looping functionality to work well?

The dreaded noise also plays a part in that functionality failing too on my unit.

If you get the loop going and your not using hold like in the video, and with the repeats knob fully open. With every repeat of the loop, the same audio just gets thrown back into the buffer every cycle, along with a load more hiss, getting louder and louder and noisier and noisier.

I have tried turning my gain down to -3, which doesn’t help.

I am beginning to think there maybe a load of faulty units out there, and everything seems very quiet when you go searching for answers :frowning:

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#590

I do feel like the input gain could go down more, and wish it was a knob.

Hold I think would be much better if it didn’t cause Repeats to change its meaning. I want to be able to switch smoothly from “real” (almost-)infinite repeats to Hold, but if I do that I never get the results I want.

I love the general character of it and the wild things it’ll do with zone 0 though (or dipping in and out of zone 0), and I think it’s the most fun delay I’ve ever had. I’m curious how my feelings about it might change once the E520 arrives though.

#591

I use my DLD like this more or less no problem. Doesn’t have the most headroom if you keep adding additional layers at 100% feedback but that’s my only compliant. Because I have a DLD I haven’t really tried this on my Mimeophon. I will say that that the video example is at 100% wet, which might be why no noise is added.

#592

Have your feelings changed? I’ve been thinking about trying the Mimeo again, but waiting for my E520.

#593

Nope, I still love the Mimeophon. It’s just excellent in zone 0, and the overall character is great.

E520 has some nice delays, but so far, I’ve mostly stuck to its spectral and modulation/shifting effects. The October update is apparently adding a Karplus chord algorithm which should be fun.

I even added an FX Aid XL, which is fantastic and does have some worthy resonator/comb filter abilities, but I just don’t see myself ever getting tired of Mimeophon.

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#594

anyone else having this hissing issue this badly? not sure if it registers on the video but its a substantially loud “hissing” noise. it is not my gear or cables. such a bummer. i just got this off reverb :frowning:

#595

Yup, you’ve found what is being considered a feature rather a bug.

(Rather than reopen the old wound, yes, that’s “normal”)

#596

curse… i’ve been excited about buying this module for so long. I used a friend’s briefly at one point and it did not behave like this.

#597

Check your gain settings. It’s possible that you are getting noise you don’t need to be getting!

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#598

There’s no input on that test, so it shouldn’t be gain staging.
On mine, with no input, the noise level doesn’t change as the input level is adjusted.

#599

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=zBngOYMchq8&app=desktop This helped but didn’t eleminate the hiss. i’ll just have to add this “noise floor” to the rest of the dirt and dust balls on my real floor. :wink:

#600

Well of course, with no input it’s a 0 to something signal to noise ratio.

When there IS a signal, adjusting the input gain up and the output level down makes a difference. Enough that it generally isn’t a problem for most people.

#601

We all discussed this at length above.

The problem for me in a musical sense is not so much the noise floor (which is way too high in the dry signal for a piece of audio equipment these days). But rather the fixed gating algorithm with no hysteresis control which they force on the user. This means you get artifacts on the decay of abrupt and delicate sounds. Quite a dumb choice for a west coast designer. If I want a signal gated, I’ll put a good one on myself.

Otherwise the fx sounds great.

#602

I just got my Mimeophon yesterday. I love this module, it’s brilliant. Voltage control over everything, no weird keypress combos / menus, brilliant sounds across all the zones… love it.

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#603

The Mimeophon is my favorite delay in or out of the box. It just works so well on so many things. I’ve been using it lately to give color to kind of lifeless samples. It just makes everything sound vibey and great.

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