Nothing too mysterious about XOH, from what I can tell. Two channels, A and B, each with a pair of stereo inputs and A and B level inputs. After level control, both pairs of stereo inputs get summed to the Line Out L and R outputs and the headphone out, which has it’s own level control and is based on the same circuit as the line out section of the CV Bus.

I am quite sure this new system (an early version) was what they used to show the Mimeophon at Superbooth. I remember asking whether the Mimeophon would enter an updated version of the current systems, and I think they said they instead planned a new microsound system consisting of the modules mentioned above.

Hope I’m not just adding to the madman dreams… :wink:

I think that’s silly. “Sorry, I promised myself I’d stop” doesn’t require much leaping or tone-judging and clearly shows a motive to take a little pot shot. Not that it’s egregious or the end of the world something, just that you might have picked the wrong post since you’re kind of doing the exact thing you’re complaining about.

I dunno.

Bah, didn’t realize I’m responding to a year old post, sorry for that.

I can’t imagine Strymon is partcularly concerned about anything Make Noise is doing, unless Make Noise is getting into the stompbox market. :laughing:

There’s certainly overlap between Mimeophon and Magneto, but they seem like wildly different beasts to me. Aside from being delays, they have very different implementations and desired end results from everything I’ve seen - much less of Mimeophon granted. I consider them different tools.

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There is no such thing as too much delays :joy:

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In preparation for mimeophon’s approach- some adjusting on modulargrid has arrived me at this configuration and with the exception of the moddemix placement (I really don’t like having it in the bottom row) this setup has me really excited, and I think will have some serious staying power.

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Yeah that looks like an incredibly complete instrument! That’s like the best of the best collection, missing only the Erbe. Maybe you could put the Mimeophon where the Wogglebug is, then sandwich Maths with Wogglebug to the left and Moddemix to the right? It does take the Wogglebug as far as it could be from the Morphagene though…

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I like that idea, nice one! I do wish there was a spot for Erbe, one of my favorites for sure- my thinking is when I REALLY want that spacey stuff I can crank up the mimeophon feedback and halo controls, but we’ll have to see what that sounds like when it arrives! I also use BAM for general reverb stuff so cutting Erbe is cutting out some redundancy, albeit without the fun CV mangling ability.

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I was watching old Mimeophon videos and the Tape and Microsound Music system we were discussing earlier in the thread is specifically mentioned around 30 seconds in this SonicState video. Very tempting… Morphagene, Mimeophon, and QPAS are increasingly on my radar and I could mix and match from my current Shared System or use both systems together.

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I find it quite alarming that - so far as I can tell - my reason for not pre-ordering a Mimeophon is the semi-subconscious realisation that “but then I’ll have two ifwhen I buy the Tape and Microsound Music system”. :roll_eyes:

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It’s easy to conceptualize the “tape and microsound music machine” as a fixed instrument and hence why people might be drawn to purchasing the system as such.

From your comment though, it sounds as if there is something different between buying the components individually and buying them as a system. I’m curious about what that distinction is for you if there is one? Or is it as simple as a significant discount when purchasing a MN system (if that is the case)?

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Some bulk discount is usually at work when buying a complete system! :sunglasses:

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I could buy the component modules individually, but that would likely be more expensive, it would certainly take more time, and it would lack the… “completeness”, I guess.

As a system, it appeals on a couple of levels; it’s a not-so-small object of desire (I mocked it up in modular grid, and it’s a thing of beauty!), and it’s a self contained instrument that was designed and put together by the same people according to a set of principles, and with a particular goal in mind.

And a finished system would be a new experience, a different tack. All of my current Eurorack stuff has been bought piecemeal and is part of a thing that’s constantly evolving. Buying a finished system, all at once, would be a new thing that I’m curious about. I’ll never be planning the next module I’ll be putting in the case and wondering what module I’ll need to ditch to make room for it, and I’ll never need to worry about whether I’m going to be over-taxing the power supply.

I’m intrigued by what might happen if I let someone else make the decisions. :slight_smile:

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@scrag Totally on the same page with all of that. I’m seriously considering a downsizing move with my gear to afford the new microsound system. I’ve always wanted to explore the Morphagene / granular synthesis in general but always found it a bit difficult to conceptualize making music that way; but the concise yet expansive nature of it’s design has connected some pieces in my brain that make it seem incredibly fun.

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With Mimeophon on it’s way out the door, I am curious what we might see next from MN:

More in the stereo realm? A stereo Erbe-Verb? A stereo voice?
A reintrepretation of Pressure Points maybe?
Dare I suggest a reinterpreation of Maths?
A new standalone instrument ala 0-Coast?

The Shared System seems pretty “complete”. PP and Brains feels like the element with the most room to change.

A stereo system seems mostly fleshed out, but there’s decidedly room for the notion of a larger stereo system as well.

It does make me wonder how a company like Make Noise moves forward after a certain point.

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at the qpas event tony made it seem like changes to the shared system were pretty much off the table - basically it’s really done and tempi was the last addition. He hinted if qpas was part of a system it would be a new thing - which clearly ended up being the microsound system. It would be interesting if another larger stereo system were in the works too and what that would look like, or if the next step would be another different skiff system…

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I’d love to see them come up with a 14 hp folding case!

Is there any info yet about the contents of the full microsound system?

Plus a 4hp mult. I think I remember reading that the xpan wasn’t officially part of the system, that 10hp would be free to fill as you please, but I don’t recall where I read that. Either way, the xpan makes perfect sense. & If you use stackables, a Worng LRMSMSLR would serve that system nicely (can you tell I’ve thought about this too much?)

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well, I’m already halfway there, if I bust up my Shared System… Hmmm…

this an interesting question- Make Noise’s current lineup I think has a ton of staying power, but what might things look like in 5 years,10 years? Are there going to be 50 different make noise modules?

With regards to what’s next, I’d love to see some kind of dedicated saturation/distortion/compression module. Surely a stereo reverb is put out eventually. I think a new oscillator would be great as well- a DPO mk2 for example.

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