#432

I’d agree in terms of tone. But I do feel that the way it granulates in terms of grain size / distribution / overlap, and the way the controls interact on grain parameters is very specific - and is the character of it.

#433

I’m trying to think of it as a complete system rather than just the Morphagene, also the fact that it is stereo is appealing. I don’t have any eurorack gear so maybe my perspective is a little different than most. It’s what I like about instruments such as a Plumbutter there is a focus and curation combined with a distinct sonic character.

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#434

I’d like to hear from folks who can speak to the question of Magneto vs Mimeophon, and even more specifically in the context of using one or the other with a Morphagene…

#435

Magneto can do pitch shifting, Mimeophon not so much. Both can do tape warbly effects. If i had to choose one I’d go with Mimeophon for the practicality of it, it’s smaller and can cover most of the Magneto’s ground. Magneto can do interesting stuff with it’s Rec trigger input which Mimeophon can not.

Lately I tend to use Morphagene as a delay/looper itself and I would put it after Mimeophon/Magneto. I think you would get interesting results with any combo, the question is what are you after? :slight_smile:

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#436

Yes me too. Mine has been set to inop 1 specifically for this for a while now:

I can’t speak for Mimeophon, but slicing up the lushness of Magneto’s tape modelling is addictive stuff…

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#437

I’m mostly hoping for some versatility that I can experiment with! Given my existing Shared System and general appreciation for MN, I’m more inclined towards Mimeophon than Magneto, but it’s always helpful to hear other folks’ perspectives…

Thanks!

#438

Any of those modules will give you plenty to experiment with. The results are going to be a bit different but not in better/worse terms.

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#439

Magneto is a tape head delay emulation with some extra looper/echo/reverb fx functionality.

Mimeophon despite the lack of dual pitch shifting is more akin algorithmically and very much so sound-wise to a vintage digital rack delay like an eventide or lexicon, but with extensive cv control.

Personally I think Magneto is a good emulation (sounds more familiar mono too, I think, since that’s generally how it was done back in the day), but I prefer the sound and control options of the Mimeophon, which I find more complementary to modular than a tape emulation.

But If I were running vocals and more hifi recorded signals through modular, I would try the Magneto first.

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#440

I have both (thought I would make a decision to get rid of one it that doesn’t seem to be happening). They are very different in my opinion and have different strengths. Magneto is more precise and less random, if that makes sense, particularly in recording loops/samples and playing them back. Shift mode is also something that can be very versatile/helpful at taking a small amount of source material and adding a good deal of complexity. It also gives you a lot of clock out options and, despite its criticisms for lack of cv control, it’s got quite an array of cv control that can be used in interesting ways to self patch.
Mimeophon definitely adheres to what I feel is the make noise philosophy of leaning more towards the random/less predictable with a lot of character but with the ability to be precise if you want. There are also so many other things you can do with it: morphagene-like stuff when you hold a buffer, can be a synth, Karplus strong, etc. As a delay it can be really clean or sound beautifully dark.

Not mentioned here but could be considered is W/ which is really great as a delay as well, and has so many other uses. Not as comparable for a lot of reasons (not stereo is an obvious one) but I really like the sound of W/ especially as a delay and when pitching up/down.

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#441

Thanks!

I have a W/ but have yet to penetrate the heart of its mysteries…

Sounds like Mimeophon is more in line with my overall inclinations…

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#442

The Timetable is super fun. I have no idea why they discontinued it. That and the Dunst and the Stages replaces the Tempi/Wogglebug/Maths combo in the stock T&S system.

I actually only have 2hp left, due to my Nearness being the wide one with the attenuators. But my empty slot is a millimeter or two too narrow to actually fit a module in. I have a knockoff Clouds with a wood panel. I’m seriously thinking of taking my Shinto rasp to the edges of it to get my two millimeters back.

The W/ is extremely attractive but seems a bit overwhelming. I don’t like modules that require memorizing an entire complex UI in order to get anything done. I just want to wiggle, man. The Morphagene is cool that way. It’s deep but you can do 90% of the fun stuff without memorizing any button combos at all.

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#443

You can do tape warble with the Morphagene alone. Just run some noise into the Varispeed CV hole.

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#444

I very much enjoy my make noise modules and I love the design. The one thing I can’t quite figure if I have fully comprehended is the distributed mixing approach. I’m in the process of deciding which mixing solution I need, but I’m struggling to figure out if I am missing some fundamental idea with mixing in the make noise system. I just don’t see the benefit of distributed mixing over have a more traditional mixing console (eg wmd performance mixer). It feels a little like the distributed mixing is an add on functionality (optomix and modemix) or is a different take on some specific aspects of a traditional mixer (RxMx).

I’d be interested to hear any thoughts and insights people have, particularly with the X-PAN and to a certain extent the XOH (neither of which I currently have). Do these modules complete the distributed mixing approach and address all the functions of a more traditional mixing console?

#445

I’m not quite sure I get your point. Could you elaborate here? How does mixing in a Make Noise system differ from other modular systems, which do not have a “classic mixer” module like the WMD performance mixer?

I guess modules like Rosie and XOH can be seen as very small “end of chain” mixers, although XOH is just a simple two channel stereo mixer (with line and headphone outs) without further features. So I say they don’t address all functions of a traditional mixing console.

#446

I think its because Tony has specifically referred to the distributed mixing as a concept in the make moise system. In that respect I’m wondering if there is some form of master plan that is being developed. I partly agree with your point that it is not really different from other systems without a traditional mixer, except I think the aux inputs of optomix, modemix etc give a nod towards this particular concept of distributed mixing.

Just wondering if i am missing something fundamental? Hope that make sense!

#447

I love MakeNoise, but I think it’s a buzz word that really is trying to draw attention to something that isn’t really new. I wouldn’t overthink it. Explore different workflows and use what works.

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#448

I think that’s fair enough comment :+1:

#449

Totally get you point now! I back up what @sellanraa said, don’t overthink it. In principle moddemix, optomix and xpan are great VCAs with additional functionalities.

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#450

Thanks for this link. My Morphagene has been sitting unused for ages but recently I started playing with it again. This is exactly the sort of direction I’ve been wanting to take it!

#451

A little late on this, but I owned a Magneto, and currently own Mimeophone and Morphagene. I have to say that I like the Mimeophone much better than the Magneto. Every Strymon product I’ve owned has the same sonic recipe to me: very neutral and even sterile platform with DSP that tries emulate something analog which I think sounds a little fake. Magneto was no exception. Both Mimeophone and Morphagene have a slightly more organic analog section/ converters to my ears, and that defines the core sound, it’s not defined by any DSP emulation trying to make it sound vintage. I appreciate this, because inevitably every analog emulation falls short to me, and with the Make Noise digital stuff I’m not comparing it to a direct analog counterpart, even though in both cases they are using tape as a reference point, but’s it a jumping off point.

I can also say having owned a Nebulae and used Clouds a ton that both of these Make Noise modules sound a whole hell of a lot better than either of those.

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