#573

Lately I’ve found a lot of enjoyment from just running different outs from DPO to Optomix, modDemix and Three Sisters, and playing with parallel processing and recording those drones to my DAW and editing there. DPO sounds so lively and full, and has great sound sculpting potential. I really enjoy the flexible distributed mixing ethos of Make Noise, and with my rack being roughly 50% Make Noise, maybe 25% Whimsical Raps and 25% others I’ve learned to see the appeal of single manufacturer systems. Having said that, I’ve found Whimsical Raps modules to be great fit, and I think especially Cold Mac and Just Friends add a lot of creative functionality without much overlap in MN ecosystem.

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#574

I came here to post a question that just happens to follow on pretty well from what @Quru just posted. I am working towards building a shared system of sorts - I am planning on substituting the DPO for a combo of STO, Cold Mac, Manngrove and Three Sisters. Then substituting the Maths for a Just Friends and a MN Function.

Obviously these are not perfect like for like swaps, but they are modules I am familiar with and really enjoy using. My question is, what key functions of the Shared System will I lose by making my planned substitutions? The main missing utility I can see is maybe channels 2 and 3 of Maths and the ability to attenuvert/offset, to solve this I should be able to squeeze in a 4hp attenuverter and/or use cold mac when suitable.

I figured people following this thread are most likely to have experience with both a complete Shared System and the Mannequins line up!

#575

I’m not as familiar with Just Friends, but a key feature of Maths (to me) are the end of cycle / end of rise gate outputs. Maybe I’ve become too reliant on them but they end up being a centerpoint in a lot of my patches.

edit: Having said that, just roll with it. You can always modularize back if you find yourself missing something critical. That’s part of the fun!

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#576

The Function has both EOR and EOC, although they are obviously tied to the same rise/fall cycle so slightly different from Maths, but it’s something! As you say though…no harm in just trying it all out!

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#577

Function has EOR and EOC, so that’d be covered for one function generator at least.

Personally in that setup I would rather swap the DPO for another complex oscillator (such as Hertz Donut), or perhaps a Warps or Godspeed+ with the Mangrove, or work an FM Aid in there somehow – but then I am hooked on FM (preferably TZFM) and wavefolding. :slight_smile:

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#578

You’re right, of course. My reading comprehension was not up to speed for the morning, I missed the part about the Function entirely!

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#579

What is it about the DPO that would make you want to swap it out? Just a matter of preferring the sound of other options?

#580

Yup, that’s it. In a Shared System I might give it another chance first, but I like TZFM a lot, and never quite gelled with the DPO’s wavefolder (or 0-Coast’s) as much as some others.

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#581

Finally got the 7U Steel case with CV bus yesterday, it feels like a really good build. Yet I got some drama right in the beginning, I put my Trogotronic M277 to the case (which is powered via auxiliary power supply) and when I put it in the wall the supply also turned on my Xaoc modules (which hasn’t happened before) after which the M277 put out a nice smoke puff and self-destroyed.

At first I thought I’d broken all my modules but I was quite relieved that it was just the Trogo I lost. Still a bummer though :expressionless:

#582

Have to agree with all the above suggestions if you’re planning a hybrid shared system with Mannequins modules. I ended up going with a Falistri over Maths - and while it has many similar functions and I love it, I still think Maths offers more for its size than any function generator mainly because of the mixing / attenuverting as you said. Also Mangrove and Godspeed as @Starthief suggested - with a Cold Mac between them is an extremely fun setup, that’s my current “complex oscillator” and I haven’t missed my DPO at all, though that’s a factor of preference so ymmv. Either way it sounds like a solid lineup and I’m sure you’ll have more than enough ground to cover to keep you busy for a long time.

#583

Something new, mayhaps? :mag_right:

#584

Would be curious to hear how Mangrove + Godspeed + Cold Mac sounds!

#585

There is a certain magic in the act of patching a modular synthesizer, a special joy to be had in building up complex structures from the relationships between a few simple elements.

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#586

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So, Make Noise introduced this new 0-Control sequencer, today. There’s a bunch of media, but I most recommend Loopop’s demo/review and the Sonic State interview with Tony.

It’s basically the Pressure Points X 2 + Brains, in a slim tabletop box that matches the 0-Coast, with a few augmentations and tweaks, at a price much lower ($399) than buying the Pressure Points X 2 + Brains modules (~$550 total). 0-Control is not a module and cannot be rack mounted.

The main added feature is a built in clock, which can be modulated per-step. (Precisely—exactly—what is going on with this variable clocking hasn’t been discussed, to my knowledge, but it clearly works nicely for variable step length/groove.) The 0-Control entirely analog.

The Serge TKB lineage of the Pressure Points is just as strong with 0-Control. The variable step length addition is Buchla MARF-inspired.

The whole product is very Make Noise in appearance and function. I think it’s pretty neat.

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#587

I was looking to put together a 2x Pressure Points skiff but the 0-Ctrl is making me reconsider. Not super interested in the clocked sequencing part, but I am totally down for a pressure sensitive touch controller.

I do have a few questions about Pressure Points if anybody can help me out:

Are the gate and pressure CV outputs polyphonic? As in, if I press on multiple stages at once will I get gates and CV out of each output or will I only get the currently selected stage’s output?

If I connect 2 Pressure Points together but don’t adjust the jumpers will it still function as two separate modules? I was thinking about using something like the Ladik Switches module to toggle the connection so I could go between 1x8 and 2x4 but I am a bit concerned this could potentially damage things.

#588

Pretty cool. If I didn’t already have 2xPP + Brains I’d prefer this instead.

#589

With Pressure Points you can only select one stage at a time. Pretty sure this is true of 0-Control as well from what I can tell. That said, keep in mind that selecting a single stage of PP gives you access to five separate, simultaneous control voltages. So if polyphony is your deal, PP is more than capable.

#590

Was hoping this could be case mountable because my Pressure Points are a little aloof at the moment (lights don’t track the actual active stage, starting points vary from time to time, voltages drift a bit). This unit is very interesting but will definitely make fixing my PP+Brains a less attractive option. Might have to look at an old Rene.

#591

Just adding that you can use multiple pressure outputs at once, just not multiple stages/gates. I’ll often use multiple pressure outputs in combination with slew limiters to open different VCAs.

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#592

Thanks! I was kind of hoping that you couldn’t get multiple simultaneous pressure outputs because now I actually need to make a decision about whether that is worth the extra cost :frowning: