My completely unprofessional video with background aquarium noise, showing a fun 0-Ctrl patch :slight_smile:

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Sounds really great and I love how playable it is. That is one of the things that I fell like missing in my eurorack case right now. I can easily do trills/legato/tapping/whatever on my guitar but to program anything like this into my ER-101 or Teletype I would need to have a significant amount of time (which as a parent I am constantly missing) and 0-Ctrl could give me back at least some part of such expresivity while still allowing me to use modular sound sources.
Are there any hard blockers that you encountered while playing with 0-ctrl, like something that can’t be done even with clever patching using other modules. Because as I mentioned it looks like anything that might be missing on first glance (like octave switches and multiple pitch outs) could be easily solved by patching it into an adder or shift register so I guess it is just really well designed :smiley:
I see that you mentioned

because you have to release one not before another one will register

I couldn’t be exactly sure from the video but do you mean that if you touch one plate and then touch second without lifting the first finger it won’t trigger a gate and won’t send CV of the second pad to output?

Just actual polyphony :grin:

Right. If you touch plate 2, then touch plate 5 while still holding plate 2, the gate for step 2 will still be enabled, the CVs will be the ones from step 2, there won’t be any change in the keyboard gate output, the next reset will go to step 2, etc.

My expectation from more traditional keyboards is that playing legato would have switched the step gate and the CVs, but kept the gate output high… but I’m not sure what Buchla/Serge/etc. touch keyboards tend to do.

It’s not really a problem, just requires a bit more precision from your fingers if you’re used to using more of a hammer-on technique.

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Smooth CV vs Crunchy CV
  • Wogglebug Smooth Random CV Out
  • Morphagene Crunchy Peanut Butter Envelope Follower CV Out

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Wogglebug’s Ego to Id is also a Smooth to Crunchy control

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I like it, but if I sell it, this will be why. I kind of hate this, which I think keeps me from loving it? Need to spend more time with it.

Wogglebug Slow Smooth is hands down my favorite modulation source, I use it in every patch for the most part.

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So I use the 0-Ctrl as a keyboard a lot, even though I have an Arturia Keystep, I highly prefer it to an actual western keyboard because it encourages you to make different, non-linear, note choices.

Like I another poster above, I also use this in combination with a Pressure Points and an Ears, and they were totally right, you really have everything you need with those three things in terms of control. I also have two quantizers, a Penrose and a Marbles which are used in conjuction as well. This is the heart of my control setup. I actually use this to play a 4u banana Serge setup, and it works beautifully, I just made a bunch of cables that go from euro to banana.

So, my only gripe about the 0-Ctrl, which I do find annoying in some cases – I wish the envelope that is tied to the pressure output and the dynamic output was adjustable. I find when playing the pads, the attack and release is a bit on the slower side, especially when compared to PP. Its really nice for slow swells, but not as nice for faster playing. Also, when you are sequencing, I also wish the envelope decay on the dynamic gate output was snappier. Oddly, you can adjust this when the 0-Ctrl is externally clocked, by adjusting the speed all the way clockwise, but then you loose the ability to have the bottom row make adjustments to the speed of each step. So, that’s my only gripe… adjustable attack and decay would have been nice, even if it was with a trimpot, maybe there is one, I just didn’t see it at least.

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Following up on the “Sandwich Time” video from last week:

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Will trade eurorack for food

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Morphagene CV out to Optomix CTRL in just made my day. That’s a wonderful technique.

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I just love the way you embrace the style your vídeos are drifting towards. I guess they are staring to be a little to flipped out for some but I hope you stay true to yourself and continue doing what you find satisfying.

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Mysteron is my stand-out MN module.

When I deploy it, I know we’re going somewhere.

Daughter’s painting, circa early adolescence.

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I think this question is appropriate for this thread as it deals with usability and design: I’m assembling my own franken-Shared System and Rene 2 is sold out everywhere, but I have come across some used V1 modules—is V1 still plenty useful and powerful or would I be better served to sit tight and wait for V2’s to get restocked?

Now that I’ve asked, I realize that question seems loaded—I don’t doubt V1 is a fun and capable module. I guess what I really want to know is this: is V2 so much improved/enhanced that I might as well wait? I do intend to rehome my system into a Make Noise 7U case when those are available again and am alloting space for some mults in the case to approximate the lack of CV bus.

Thanks for weighing in!

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Appreciate that! I’ve always enjoyed absurdist humor, and respected artists who followed strange creative threads to their logical conclusions with gusto. I’ve made over 300 patch videos now, and it’s fun to see the possibilities really starting to open up as I become more proficient. The more oddball concepts have been mostly well-received too, but I’ll always keep making regular patch tutorials as well :slight_smile:

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I greatly prefer the immediacy of Rene 1. V2 is in the rack right now but I almost never use it. Maybe I’m doing it wrong but v2 feels like I have to reprogram it every time I want to sequence something where v1 felt like I was ready to go whenever I wanted. Using v2 I feel more at the mercy of my limited understanding of the module, like I should know where the patch is going to go rather than stumbling upon it, which I would do with v1.

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both renes are fantastic sequencers. i would wait for a v2 only if you really want a major feature it offers like the third cv channel or quantization options on all channels or the “z-plane” (stepping through saved configs). i would say the power it adds is pretty proportional to the amount of added complexity you need to contend with in operating it.

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Thank you both for your responses! I realize your opinions may differ here, but would getting a V1 and learning to use it prep me to be more successful with a V2 down the road?

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I’d say yes. I’d also suggest that if you get rene 1, use it and then find a rene 2, to keep 1 around a while, as you may prefer it.

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Thanks for your input!

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