Thank you for the clarification! Guess I’ll have to use the Hermod for this task then once I get my OT

Hoping to get some thoughts from anyone using Rene 2 in a small set up. My 104hp skiff is similar in ways to the system Cartesian so I’m getting increasingly tempted to swap a few things out and try it with the Rene.

Because the system Cartesian was originally sold with the Rene 1 I’m wondering if the Rene 2 is overkill in a small system? Any interesting examples of using the three channels with only a few modules?

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Even in a small setup where you only have one thing needing pitch sequencing, having the other two channels to sequence various CV parameters as well as simultaneously create trigger sequences is extremely powerful!

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I’m using a 104hp skiff with a Rene2 right now and really enjoying it.

I don’t find that it’s overkill. The third channel can be difficult to predict but I always find a use for it (frequently patched back into Rene). If anything I find that Rene2 is itself really hungry for lots of modulation. It gets much more interesting the more clocks and cv you can feed it.

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Would not be overkill by any means. If anything, the ability to sequence states and so many other parameters would add way more to a smaller system than the original Rene. I think V2 is better for a smaller system for this reason.

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Thanks for the replies everyone - sounds like it would be a lot of fun!

Obviously having a variety of clock sources must be fairly key to getting the most out of it. The main clock sources I would have would be Wogglebug and Stages which I think between them would create a lot of possibilities!

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You could also self patch Rene…

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See @walker’s “An Introduction to Self Patching René” video for inspiration. (I like to revisit this one and the “René S&H Flourishes” video when I’m feeling stuck and want to change things up.)

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So I took the plunge (a voucher for 15% off ebay tipped me over the edge) and have to say first impressions are great! Very imediately rewarding, even in the small time I had with it. Really looking forward to going through the MN videos this evening.

One issue I’ve noticed already though is that occasionally the quantiser seems to not make up it’s mind which note it wants to output and the pitch CV flucuates rapidly between two adacent notes causing a trill effect. It doesn’t happen often, and certainly doesnt happen every repeat of the sequence, it seems to be totally random! Anyone else experienced this?

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I have experienced this and I have found: the knob for the particular note in which the “trill” is happening is in just the right spot to go back and forth between the two values for some reason. If you turn the knob just slightly to the note you want, then it should go away or it least it has in my case.

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Same here. That’s absolutely correct :+1:

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Looking for and advice for ways to sequence and change chords on the fly on Rene. Even better if without extra modules :joy:

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The Cartesian channel is great for improvising chord changes.

Set up each of the horizontal rows on the C channel as four distinct chords, harmonic relationships, etc. I tend to go with triads and then an octave up from the root. A gate to the X channel will advance the C channel horizontally, but not vertically. In this way, you can use X channel for gate sequencing, C channel for quantization, and Y channel to change chords. A faster clock to X moves the sequences, a slower clock (or manual gate) to Y initiates a chord change.

It gets even more fun when you start using the fun.cv.loc input on the Y channel to add little harmonic flourishes between chord changes.

If you want to be able to move between more complex chords / sequences, you may want to look into the meta-sequencing on the Z axis to modulate states.

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Apologies if this has been covered before, but how does Rene v2 react to a lack of clock on X and Y channels?

Is it possible to ‘play’ one channel live on the location pads (e.g. X channel with no clock), creating gate and cv outputs correspondingly, while still clocking the Y channel independently as a traditional clocked sequencer?

I guess what I’m trying to ask is can a non-clocked pressure points alike ‘touch controller’ be recreated on one channel, while still having traditional clocked sequence behavior on the other?

Two excerpts from the manual about unclocked channels:

Using X and Y-CV inputs and their associated attenuator / combo pots with FUN.CV settings:

Set up an unclocked X or Y channel with 4-octave output range on the QUANT page, and current location knob turned all the way counterclockwise, and FUN.CV.ADD or FUN.CV.S&H engaged. This will let you use the channel’s CV input as an ersatz quantizer.

Using unclocked channels in Latch Mode:

When the channel is unclocked and you touch a Location, R2 will go to that Location and output a Gate. Enable a Location and adjust associated Knob to set Location CV value. This is very useful for tuning notes in a melodic pattern. Just select the Location you want to tune, adjust the Location’s knob, then move to the next Location and repeat.

If Z.ON is engaged on the Global Page, you can use the Latch page to interact with René while modulating the Z-Axis. This is a non-destructive way to improvise over pre-programmed states. In other words, as you progress from one state to the next, your latch is maintained. Latch is not stored and does not alter Program Pages in the selected State.

Note: Single-location Latches will cause X or Y channels to output gates at the clock rate, but the Cartesian channel must have two or more locations Latched for the same behavior. This is due to slight differences in the way these channels create gates, and can be used as a quick way to fully stop the Cartesian channel in performance without stopping X or Y Clocks.

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Some decent tips on here, cheers people!

To elaborate on what WendyVeen was saying. Using the z-axis to move between arpeggiating chords is great. Just set up a bunch of states; on each state, select the notes you want in your chord on the quantizer page, and then “play” your chords by selecting the z-state you want (and or using the z-mod).

You don’t mean playing polyphonic chords with all notes engaged at the same time, right? I think that rene would be a pretty poor tool do that with. It’s certainly possible, but super-cumbersome.

The above tips apply, but if you’re asking about using the Rene in something like James Cigler’s “mpc mode” for Rene 1 (https://youtu.be/Ab4rXKXGESs), there’s no way to do that with Rene 2, last I heard.

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Thank you! I think that confirms what I am looking for (assuming it outputs the locations CV value in sync with the gate) :+1:

Was kind of bummed to find out Rene v2 can’t be played manually :thinking:

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