#153

Awesome, thanks!
Will try that out today. Any tips to do on X and Y channels to get more interesting sequences?

#154

I thought caelmore’s quote above confirms that it can be played manually on either x or y channel?

…I’m really confused now (although it doesn’t take much :smile:)

#155

Need to check how Latch works when unclocked.

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#156

The mod and cv inputs are where Rene really shines in my opinion. Try modulating the snake patterns via cv input or sending a different clock to the mod input with run/stop activated.

You can also always just “play” the gate / access sequences in real time.

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#157

Can you elaborate on this more, pls?

#158

Why would Cigler’s manual patches not work on Rene 2? When locations are disabled but Rene is clocked, does touching locations not output corresponding voltages and gates according to the incoming channels clock? I can’t imagine why this would not work on 2.

#159

I’m pretty sure @jamescigler / MPC mode / Classic René latching doesn’t work due to the difference in how capacitive touch interaction works in René 2. Latch mode on each of the three channels of R2 is more like toggling on/off switches for each note, whereas the classic René’s capacitive touch interaction works a momentarily on/off switch.

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#160

This is awful! I recently sold my original to buy the successor but did not realize this. I didn’t really use MPC mode but Touch Sequence mode is fundamental to my flow. So there is no way to momentarily select locations?

#161

This insta post seems to indicate some latching keyboard functionality.

#162

But the locations are ‘latched’, they stay lit rather than being momentary as was possible with play mode on the original. If clocked, Rene would have cycled through the latched locations.

#163

@walker Any chance there’s a momentary latch firmware addition in the works? :smile:

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#164

Simply that at any point you can turn access or gate locations on or off while a sequence is running. This was designed to be a performance element and the updated touch pads make it far friendlier to live program than the original.

#165

This would be cause for a midnight moon celebration!

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#166

You can also manually step through your sequence when unclocked by going to the fun page and tapping the clock parameter manually. Only works for one channel at a time, but I use it to create loops with magneto and W/.

#167

Been hoping for that firmware update since Rene mk2 came out.

Instead of acting as toggles on the latch page they should be momentary. By pressing the “left” arrow the pressed locations would latch… that’s how I’d like it.

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#168

Agreed! Hopefully in an update. Anyone with the mana to put such a thought across?

#169

A good chunk of those “Rene 10x” video examples will work with R2. However, you are correct - my personal faves MPC Mode and Touch Sequence mode are not exactly possible anymore. Touch Sequence mode still is kinda a thing, but R2 is essentially always in LATCH operation, so you touch the stages to turn them on, and touch them again to turn them off.

@DegradedEcho - I’ve adjusted to how Touch Sequence works on R2. When I would perform with Touch Sequence I almost always latched at some point, so now I try and exploit the latching behavior more often. Slowly building/tearing down more elaborate sequences (more steps than I could realistically hold and latch on R1). It’s good, just in a different way. Bummer you sold the OG though as it still has a special place. I’ve seen so many on Reverb for cheap I debated picking up a 2nd but opted to scouring for a TSNM instead.

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#170

I’m pondering a trade for Rene v1 and I’ve purposely avoided comparisons to the newer model.

Do some folks still favor the original Rene?

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#171

I will have to make the same adjustment. It is a nice feature actually, having a latch mode rather than needing to actively latch the sequence. As you say, building/tearing down sequences in a gestural, performative way. But it would be so great if you could just switch latching off!
Regarding the upgrade, I am still pleased. I look forward to exploring it’s tesseract nature. The original is an undeniable bargain at the new price, a beautiful classic. I think the single channel and cartesian/logic focus is a more pure execution of the concept, but the successor is a more capable control surface for an entire system. One of each would not be overkill.

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#172

I have had both for awhile and feel that they have very different strengths. My favorite behavior on the orig that I’m unable to fully replicate on the new one: Using a variable shape unipolar lfo to address cartesian location - this can create super fast trigger bursts that are awesome going into a lowpass gate or pinging a filter. The pattern of bursts is playable by changing the lfo shape, attenuating the lfo on the input, or disabling gates or access locations. I tried this on the new rene and it seems to skip triggers on faster speeds, does not feel as zippy for lack of a better term

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