#22

Looks like a really useful stereo submixer to me.

I also just added to my extensive to stereo mixer module comparison:
http://doudoroff.com/mixers/

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#23

Tony Rolando discusses (the Q-PAS and other) stereo MN modules as related to the Shared System in the presentation of Q-PAS intro at Perfect Circuit…


See from 41:30 to 43:30 in the YouTube video.
Tony says no changes to the Shared System, but hints at a new more stereo oriented system someday.
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#25

Lovely mix of functionality and simplicity. Glad to see no combo attenuation on the xfade/panning as well.

#26

Make noise is cool
But does anyone think this can hold a candle to cold Mac ?
Or even be used in same sentence?

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#27

I see everything coming together for a replacement of the old system concrete that had Phonogene, MMG, Echophon… Could be Morphagene(maybe 2) QPAS, X-Pan, Wogglebug, Soundhack FX

X-Pan also looks like it would be a killer expander for the Rosie’s limited stereo return

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#28

It seems like the design of each is telling as to how they are intended to be used. Cold Mac is an open field of circuits for many uses, some of which have use as a stereo processer, but it’s very open ended. X-Pan has a variety of uses being DC coupled, but it has a much more focus intent in how to be used, especially given that it has 10+ inputs and 2 outputs. Apples and Oranges, room for both, even in the same system :+1:

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#29

Def gonna see stereo echophon 2 and erbeverb 2. I have no doubt there.
As a coldMac/er301/planar2 haver, this module seems redundant yet perty, and I love makenoise.
But I do think they should have had a volume pot on the 1+2 sum. No idea why to not have that. Guess they’re trying to branch out. Which is good. Rene 2 was a huge bummer for me. I like 1 a million times more.

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#30

I’m looking at my Cold Mac. One knob. So, yah, different fruits.

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#31

I see your points
I’m a knob snobb sorry!!!

#32

I wasn’t that interested when it was first announced, but I just I listened to the demo (with headphones). I imagine it could add a lot of interest to a mix and would be interested in exploring a more subtle applications, in addition to some of the wild effects it is capable of. Been wanting to explore the stereo panorama more; I had a realization recently that sometimes adjusting panning is just as effect as changing the volume level when balancing signals.

#33

Five channels is pretty impressive, especially at that HP. It reminds me immediately of the much larger footprint Koma Poltergeist, which I was really infatuated with for some time. (Though the Koma one does panning on each channel separately, leading one to anticipate a bit of a tornado of vertigo music - which was my attraction to it initially, hope to try one out some day.)

Personal opinion, I love CV panners. For clarity it can sometimes just be enough to pan out your mono signals with pan knobs on a line mixer and use a single-channel CV panner to fly the signals around.

I have a Dotcom Q148 and it is extremely robust, full-size, and about the nicest CV panner I’ve ever tried. I use it as a primary out in most mixes and it’s a delight. It looks like the X-Fade and X-Pan components of the X-Pan adopt a similar combination of VCA and Panning.

I love all the stuff that’s out these days. Amazing we have so many CV panners, even!

Best to Make Noise on this, it looks really nice.

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#34

why does this even need to be compared to cold mac

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#35

that’s just what this forum is about. other forums make you buy another VCA or Maths.

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#36

Something I really like about this module is how much more efficient it would make some patches for me (if I don’t want to get the ER-301 involved, which can definitely do lots of complex mixing/panning, but requires a different headspace to set up than the more “zen” patching vibe I’m sometimes looking for when I’m working on the modular).

I feel like when I start working with stereo and mixing more than a single voice in my current system, I pretty easily max out one or two of my quadratts, and either 2 or 4 channels on my veils. And when I front-load that kind of setup, I’ll start running out of ways to wrestle with control signals to get interesting/useful modulation.

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#37

I was about to purchase a Verbos Scan and Pan now I am debating between that or the X-pan. Anyone have any experience/comparison knowledge?

#38

Don’t know if there are any x-pans in the wild yet but based on what I’ve read elsewhere, the scan and pan can be finnicky with the panning. I am biased as a huge MN fan. Big cost difference between the too, I think it’s like $100 less for the xpan. Also based on what I’ve heard there is a lot better customer service from MN should you have any issues.

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#39

seems like it’d be a fantastic complement to a pluming JF

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#40

Fun tip from the manual:

When processing a sequence or other rhythmic sound source, mult the clock or gate that creates note events and use it to clock a Wogglebug or other random voltage source, then use the stepped random output for randomized panning per “note.”

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#41

Hi all,

I just installed X-pan and I’m confused with the following: when I listen with headphones directly from the modular, it’s all good, but when I listen from monitors or headphones post mixer, I loose the stereo field and the magic of panning… The sound seems centered andnot moving anywhere. The mixer is the KM K-mix.

Any clue of what’s going on here?

Thanks for your lights !

#42

Are your K-mix channels panned hard left and right? I forget that with my K-Mix sometimes.

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