#43

Thank you, this is ace !

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#44

Anyone have thoughts on the X-pan after owning it for a bit? I’m tempted to pick one up to free up my Cold Mac, which I frequently (under)utilize for CV panning.

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#45

It’s tough for me to compare to Cold Mac - Cold Mac feels like a wizard’s playground where you take your CVs to get twisted and with some study you can predict the outcomes. X-pan is a lot more straightforward, I reach for it with a purpose. Have used it much more as a mixer that happens to pan than as a panner. It seems like (and I could be wrong!) the design is biased panning towards the right, in that positive CVs (more common than negative CVs, yes?) will pan you to the right. Seems like maybe if they had added an attenuverter to the design, the panning would be more balanced. I haven’t gotten the hang of getting the desired effect of panning, so either I’m patching wrong or it feels flawed by design.

The other day used it to mix together a bandpass output from the QPAS filter with a lowpass output from the QPAS filter, it was great, felt like an all new filter! Also really helps with QMMG, which can overwhelm pretty easily.

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#46

Thank you for your thoughts!

Do you know if the panning control is unipolar? That would take some getting used to after using Cold Mac’s survey knob/input.

#47

I’m reading the manual right now, page 10 describes the Pan control. I think the panning control is bi-polar.

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#48

The CV only adds to the PAN control setting - that is, positive voltages push the sound to the right and negative voltages do nothing. It takes a bit of getting used to; Maths or 321 helps a lot :slight_smile:

" 1. Ch1 PAN CV Input: Unity gain Control Voltage input for determining the amount of signal from X-FADE sent to the Left and Right outputs. Added to the associated PAN Panel Control. Range is 0V to 8V DC."

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#49

Interesting. Thanks for clarifying!

#50

That would explain why it doesn’t do what I think it will! So it’s not possible to get it to pan to the left with CV?

#52

I’m going to have to correct myself here:

“For modulation around the center, Bi-polar CV is perhaps the easiest to use, because you can set the PAN Panel control to 12:00 and modulate around the Center.”

This contradicts(?) the panel control description: “Added to the associated PAN Panel Control. Range is 0V to 8V DC”, which is how I’ve been assuming it works. I’m going to run into the studio - BRB :slight_smile:

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#53

If it’s only additive, then maybe? Not sure if applying negative voltage would work to pan left.

Sounds like you’d need to keep the knob left (CCW), then apply +4v to center it out or +8v to pan hard right.

#54

Thanks for asking this question! It’s definitely bi-polar. If you set PAN to 12 0’clock, then take the bi-polar output from a Fallistri in LFO mode you can make the X-Pan pan hard left and hard right!

I (mis)read the description in the panel controls and never really tried this :stuck_out_tongue: More evidence that you should try everything at least once :slight_smile:

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#55

Ooh, that’s good to know. Far more intuitive than the alternative!

#56

This is me too. I usually use CM for cross panning which requires an a bit more pitching with x pan but can be done. Also you can pan and cross pan independently with x pan which you can’t simpy do with CM (I’m sure there’s a way because cold Mac can do anything) which I’m finding really useful and inspiring. So yes, now I can focus on CM for cv duties which the recent technical map has been perfectly timed for

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#57

Hi, I have never posted on here

I believe the reason the manual says the panel control is 0 - 8 v is because that’s the voltage that the knob is normalled to, so putting the knob in the center is 4 v, and then that is summed with the voltage going into the cv jack, which can be bipolar, so a +4v / -4v lfo will pan hard left and right with the knob in the center

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#58

It certainly works that way :slight_smile: The docs do say that the CV input is 0-8v, though:

Ch1 PAN CV Input: Unity gain Control Voltage input for determining the amount of signal from X-FADE sent to the Left and Right outputs. Added to the associated PAN Panel Control. Range is 0V to 8V DC.
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Ch1 PAN Panel Control: Sets the panorama for Ch1. Full CCW will be 100% to the Left output and Full CW will be 100% to the Right output.

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#60

not super into my x-pan because it lacks a useful feature from the other distributed mixers — single channel outputs. if it was possible to use the two panning channels independently, then i’d be more into it. this feels more like its intended to be patched right before XOH as a stereo output mixer.