glad you got it sorted! with no labels, these things can happen lol

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I finally got to connecting a MIDI controller (good ol’ nanoKontrol2) to Mangl. However I’m not able to map anything to gain, speed, jitter, size, density, pitch, spread and fade for each voice. They do show up in the parameter map for the individual voices, but I can’t get into the mapping menu with key3. Is it because these parameters are reserved for an Arc? Is there currently a way to enable those parameters to be MIDI mapped? I’m running 2.2 on 201029.

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So, gain/speed/jitter/size/density/spread/fade are all taper type parameters, and at this point taper type parameters can’t be midi-mapped.

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I asked a question regarding this yesterday in the questions category. Found this out via Oooooo. Has this worked earlier? Another user seems to have had this working. Is it a firmware issue?

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I did search this forum for Mangl midi mapping but did not see any mentions of the key parameters not being mappable. It would definitely be nice if there was a way to map the most important parameters to midi, Mangl certainly deserves this!

So it seems this is not Mangl-exclusive regarding taper type parameters right, @Justmat? More applications could benefit from a change in the firmware in that case, especially if they used to work before. If so this discussion should probably shift to a different topic, otherwise a Mangl-MIDI version or parameter type toggle could be a workaround?

midi learn/map should work for parameters of types control, taper, number, and option. (and also now binary.)

…looking now, it seems like the logic is there for the learn function but missing for the map function… and/or taper params aren’t ā€œmappableā€ by default but the other params are. i dunno. https://github.com/monome/norns/issues/1241
@tehn it seems like an easy fix.

i would attempt it myself but am in the middle of a large house move this weekend

@Justmat it may be enough to declare the params with allow_pmap=true in the constructor.

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thanks for the extra eyes and info! i’ll allow_pmap explicitly in the constructors.

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made a little max patch to control mangl over osc and called it mango :mango::blush: here’s a vid of me using it:

going to look into getting osc data back from norns to update the max patch when parameters are changed on the norns

hopefully can get started in learning lua soon, want to look into adding the ability to move the loop you can set with alt+k2 with the position parameter

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Wow! I just got an Arc and Mangl was my first experience. I initially had issues but after a reinstall it was running beautifully. I was instantly in a sonic wonderland :sparkles:
Thanks @Justmat
Wishing there was a way to record straight in but from memory its an engine limitation?

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oooh that’s a nice idea!

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yeah, recording isn’t supported as of now. i’ve been meaning to make another granular script that focuses on live input, just haven’t got around to it yet :sweat_smile:

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Oh I would LOVE a granular script that focuses on live input! Maybe after your new looper app you could start :pray:
Mangl is still so awesome. I did a little recording I’ll upload to the gram soon.

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is mangl set up to output osc? or is that something that gets added to scripts specifically? i’m working in max and wondering how I could use the udprecieve object to receive osc data about changes in parameters happening on the norns

mangle is not setup to send osc, that type of thing needs to be implemented per script. looking at the norns osc docs makes it seem pretty simple. there’s a callback function for receiving osc, and a method for sending osc.

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stereo option here wld be dope !

quick one. is the clipping/distortion issue fixed on mangl? im using a fairly recent version, but am going to try and reinstall w/latest update today - thanks for the great script.
wanted to use mangl instead of glut last night below —> but ended up last minute using glut bc of the clipping issues in mangl : /

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clipping is fixed in the current version :slight_smile: update away!

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hey @justmat sorry to be a pain here, but would it be possible to add midi mapping to the additional voice parameters in Mangl? in particular, i would like to be able to map speed, size, density, spread, pitch, and gain or overall voice level. position is already mappable and is great. that is the number one reason i am using this over glut or angl. but the additional params would be awesome for people without an arc

i should know how to do this by now, but i still don’t fully understand lua

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These should all be mappable already, are you up to date on your Norns?

edit: just checked this out on my machine, and things are working for me. Make sure that you are running the latest Norns firmware and the latest Mangl version, and you should be good to go.

ah, you’re right. missed an update. always have to remember to check that before anything else. i know that exact thing has happened before. weird how that happens. thank you, sorry about the false alarm

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