#548

Hello !
Here’s an old patch with… JF in sound mode !
Batumi is the master triggering stages enveloppes. For the effects, we have Clouds, 4MS DLD and 2hp Verb + ER-301 !

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#549

So great! I’ve been really enjoying your videos - a lot of emotional depth to them I think. Thanks for sharing.

What do you use for sequencing? I’m wondering what your composition process is.

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#550

a patch using Just Type controlled by ansible based on the first post in the teletype haiku thred. - also pinging three sisters.

I’m finding that using just mannequins/monome modules is very rewarding. Just Friends is friendly

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#551

Thank you a lot man ! In this one no sequencer at all, just Batumi to trigger stages’ enveloppes :slight_smile:

#552

Question for folks using Teletype for Just Friends: have you played with the jf.tune function at all? Does it work for you? If so, can you give me an example of the command you send it?

I’ve been trying to get this feature to work with Crow but am having no luck and am wondering if it is working OK with the Teletype folks. Thanks!

#553

replied on crow-relevant thread, apologies for the delay!

https://llllllll.co/t/crow-strategies-just-friends/25937/56

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#554

Hello :wave:

Here’s a patch with my new configuration of two JF ^^ One in sound mode and the other one in shape mode ! Am I going crazy ?
It’s also my first patch with Mimeophon !

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#555

Something I can’t quite figure out: is there any way to make JF produce constant straight rhythm in shape/cycle mode without any shifting at all?

As far as I understand, this should be possible when the INTONE and FM are both set to 12 (though I only can get something relatively straight only with INTONE at 11 which I suppose may be the calibrating problem).

Nonetheless even with this kind of settings the cycle starts to shift after a while: output envelopes’ order subtly offsets with time.

Can anyone shed some light on this?

#556

Do you mean from all outputs and without triggers?

#557

Yes. Say I’m taking bass drum envelope from 2N, and hat from 4N. No external triggers involved. I wonder if it is it possible to get them produce constantly straight rhythm. Because I haven’t been able to so far.

#558

You could try tune Intone in Sound mode, might be a bit easier to hear the beat frequencies - but that said I don’t know of any reliable ways to keep Just Friends super locked in without an external trigger. Without triggers, I think JF lends itself to the slowly phasing behavior you described quite nicely.

I think if you just had a slow clock into 6n, roughly locked in with the tempo on JF it should solve your problem without any audible resets

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#559

You describe a really specific use case in which you can self trigger JF with identity. But I bet next you are going to want to tweak it somehow :slight_smile:

Also IIRC JF keeps Freq but not phase in cycle mode, so I guess you’d need a trigger in the beggining for steady rhythm.

#560

Yes, the trigger to 6N is the way you can tie JF’s rhythms to external clocks. I’m using it from time to time. Just wandered if there’s a possibility to use JF’s internal clock to get the straight rhythm. And as it turns out there isn’t.

Thanks for your suggestions, everybody.

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#561

by straight do you mean no phasing?

Why can’t you just self-patch IDENTITY’s output to 6N to reset them all? This can get you interesting rhythms when INTONE is not fully CW.

With Intone at noon, CCW or CW, the ratios are all divisors or multiples or identity so there should be no phasing.

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#562

I would do what @voidstar suggests and leave Intone at full CW or CCW. Easiest way to synchronize the channels is switch to sustain mode, let all the channels stop, then back to cycle. They should stay sync’d and in-phase for a long time.

If you want multiple copies of a single division/multiple, use a mult module or stackcables.

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#563

I just got a second hand JF and I was curious and trying to figure out if something I’m running in to is either user error, because of firmware updates, or a faulty, ill calibrated module:

does the JF.RUN command in the Just Type function work the same as it did when demo #6 of the Just Type studies was released?

The M script is running these slight changes to the JF.RUN Param;

X RAND 6; Y RRAND 3 6
Z DRUNK
EVERY 5: JF.VTR X V Y
IF EQ Z -1: JF.RUN VV -250
IF EQ Z 0: JF.RUN VV 0
IF EQ Z 1: JF.RUN V 1

I’m seeing that if I keep the module in synth mode, the JF.RUN command only works when I turn the INTONE/FM knob away from 12 o’clock. It appears in the demo as the knob is directly 12, yet I get no effect… anybody able to test this or give their thoughts?

#564

In synthesis mode, the gray FM knob controls FM index (ie amount of modulation applied to each oscillator by its internal modulator). At noon, no modulation is applied. Turning it away from noon increases modulation. The RUN voltage controls FM ratio (ie frequency ratio between the internal modulator and the carrier oscillator).

So, when the gray FM knob is at noon, the RUN voltage will seem to have no effect because the modulation index is 0.

#565

This is a Just Type specific question, but is there a good way to understand the behavior seen when sending negative velocity values?

#566

Interesting. In the demo I saw, it didn’t appear as if the knob was away from 12 o’clock. It also seems interesting that the FM knob would attenuate the incoming RUN voltage (which in the case of the JT situation, is just a virtual application of that Voltage). But hey, if that’s how it works, I must’ve seen things wrong in the demo.

#567

It is not attenuating the run voltage. In synthesis mode, the run voltage is setting the frequency of 6 different internal modulating oscillators as ratios of their matched carrier oscillator - one for each channel of Just Friends.

These 6 modulating oscillators each pass through an internal VCA. That VCA’s output frequency modulates each of the JF channel’s main carrier oscillator. The 6 internal VCA’s are opened and closed by the FM knob and FM CV jack which acts as an offset for the knob. The FM CV/knob are thus controlling the depth of FM by the 6 internal modulating oscillators. This is known as controlling the FM Index or amount of FM.

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