#21

To me EOR EOC triggers/gates are good for inegrating multiple layers and events with/within envelope based rhythms. Tying a sweep of an envelope to several different events elsewhere in the system, or structurally conecting it to another sweep or wave form, etc.

In other words doing the kind of thing that Just Friends seems to be totally focused on, but arriving from the opposite direction: instead of having an envelope shape generating the EOC/EOR triggers/gates it constructs experimental envelope shapes based on the incoming triggers and gates. All the while keeping the crazy envelope shapes locked in a proportional relationship with each other, so that some form of voltage cohesion emerges…

at least that is how I am interpreting the descriptions so far. OR how I am imagining using it in the beginning of exploring the capabilities of what appears to be a pretty flexible and expansive apparatus :wink:

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#22

ahh

so that’s why karl mentioned using teletype for trigs…these two modules seem perfectly tuned for one another

#23

I just use them to get weird clock divisions. Or even as a master clock that can be modulated with variable log/lin response. you can also use them with and/or logic to chain multiple simple functions into a complex envelope, which is what JF has going on X100

reminds me a lot (in philosophy) of the serge systems that i’ve played

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#24

[quote=“analogue01, post:23, topic:3142”]
reminds me a lot (in philosophy) of the serge systems that i’ve played
[/quote]I was just messing with arranging a rack in modulargrid and thought friends, mac, and sisters would make for a very interesting panel

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#25

The Maths manual has some good patch examples. (Lots of props to Allen Strange!)

Some of the Maths videos might edify too: bouncing balls and swirly bird come to mind.

No Maths here anymore and I do miss the EOR!

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#26

Very similar to what everybody else has said: ‘delayed action’ - a thing I recently played with was triggering my Tides (in envelope mode) at the same time as the primary envelope on a VCA - and then using the EOR (“high tide”) to trigger a secondary envelope on another parameter; means you get action delayed by rise. Found it interesting for opening up a filter or LPG after the initial note had sounded. If you’re feeding the EG from a clock, as mentioned elsewhere, you get delayed actions happening in time with your clock source. You could modulate the rise time to get events happening within a time range after the initial trigger.

EOR makes it clear why EGs like the Maths and Rampage have two channels - often useful to trigger one envelope from another.

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#27

I’ll use my EOC and EOR outputs to interface my Maths internally and with other envelope generators or opening up my VCAs or LPGs. I have a Mini Slew and Maths and have ordered Just Friends and I think I’ll probably end up using it in audio rate as much or more than for envelopes. Though, if it’s super handy and functional as an EG then maybe that’d free up Maths for other functions. That’s the beauty of super deep and dense modules that have a lot of crossover potential I think :slight_smile:

The thing I have to ditch will be my Quad Clock Distributor so my clocking will be a bit more dependent on my Octatrack I suppose. I think that’ll be completely worth it in the long run. I’ll also have to ditch my Hats808 but I’ll pick up another dual offset/attenuverter which increasingly has been super handy in almost every patch and I could use another.

The only painful part now is the waiting!

#28

game over

i made it 2mins in and I’m sold

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#29

moment at 12:45 good heavens.

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#30

I completely agree. This just jumped to the top of my buy list.

#31

maaaaaaan oh man; that’s splendid

#32

now to acquire bread

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#33

I’m not a big fan of the documentation style, but my my, that demonstration is wonderful. Congrats on what is turning out to be an amazing product line.

#34

Yeah, the whole line-up now feels like such a strong, interesting, compact little system.

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#35

ooo vry cool! – I’m curious what is the difference between the oscillators mode and the impulse mode. In impulse mode it looks like you can shift through the different ranges, sort of like how the scan control works on the verbosHO? …or is something else going on there?

#36

I thought it is basically syncing the waves to an external puls wave by retriggering them - as in a traditional sync sound, isn’t it?

#37

I don’t really understand what’s going on there.
Also confused a bit about how you might sync some of those envelopes. It did say that the 6n acts as a reset. I’m curious what the user experience will be, if they’ll mostly be out of control all the time, or if that doesn’t even matter.

#38

Hell YES! It even sounds supreme as an oscillator… I think we’ll be good friends :heart_eyes:

#39

You can do the same thing with a Maths for example. With rise and fall down to CCW trigger it with an audio rate pulse, than slowly turn up rise. You’ll get those broken harmonic jumps as in from the mangrove when the envelope length exceeds the trigger rate…it’s just fast spiky envelopes. But, again, six of them in an adjustable ratio to each other…

#40

The intone knob appears to control the relationship of the outputs to each other - when it’s central, all the outputs fire together; as you move it, the relationship between the envelopes alters. And if 6N is a reset, and inputs are normalised rightwards, a trig on 6N should re-fire the lot (as long as there aren’t jacks in the others).

Or have I misunderstood your question?