#663

Are there any intel on when Just Friends will be available to purchase again? Waiting on a pre-order from Schneider but now Whimsical Raps website states ‘Late 2020’.

#664

I emailed Trent about Mangrove and Three Sisters last month and he said they would probably still be a couple months away, so I’m assuming the same applies to Just Friends. Things may have changed since then, though.

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#665

Did you ever get this sorted? I saw you mentioned you have it on a MMI USB power supply. I had one of those in a DIY case and some digital modules did not power up at all. Could be the issue.

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#666

Sure, if you use a slew limiter you might be able to delay the point at which the voltage crosses the logic threshold. Some modules expect a sharp rising edge, though.

#667

Jep that was the issue.

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#668

I upgraded my Just Friends to v4.0 and noticed that the Mix output was very noisy and distorted. I tried going back to v3.2 with no improvement. Looking around, I found the calibration procedure and even though the documentation states that firmware updates don’t affect the calibration I re-installed v4.0 and ran the calibration and everything is working perfectly now.

I’m not sure if this makes any sense but I mention it in case anyone else runs into this.

I’m loving v4.0 with my Crow updated to v2.0 and the new Patchwork v2.1 running on my Fates!

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#669

If i want to play this from norns and have a) a cv/gate pair and b) 4 triggers, any ideas what sequencer scripts would actually allow me to make use of both midi cv devices, i am not sure how i would be able to actually play this 1v/oct and triggers at the same time. Sorry if thats super noob.

#670

Hi!

I would like to know how you guys are sequencing your JUST FRIENDS modules with external sequencers, apart from ANSIBLE.

I already have an ANSIBLE and a GRID controller, so I have no problem with this. The thing is how to trigger the different 6 voices from a “traditional” CV and GATE sequencer that doesn’t have an I2C output. I also have a TELETYPE and I think that having an TXi expander could solve this, but I guess that for triggering 4 voices from my sequencer I would need 2 TXi to have 4 couples of CV and GATES.

Is that right? Any other suggestions? Thanks!

#671

With one teletype and one TXi you could have 5 separate CV / Gate pairs using 5 gate (script) + 1 CV inputs on teletype and the 4 TXi CV inputs. I’d also suggest experimenting with using less CV / Gate pairs that are allocated to multiple JF outputs, so you can have a few notes of polyphony depending on how many sequences you want to run.

That’s all assuming you want to you Just Type synthesis mode, if you want to try something outside of Just Type you can just run one CV to the v/oct input on Just Friends then have multiple gate rhythms ping each output (using Plume mode). Setting the intone ratios/control how you like will give you intervals that are harmonically related to the CV input on each individual output. You could also sequence the JF ratios using patterns in Teletype for different chords.

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#672

I recently got a second JF because I loved using it as a modulation source so of course I needed two :sparkles:

However, I’ve been observing some odd behavior from the second one (bought second hand). I am positive it is not behaving like it should (but who knows, maybe the first one is the one that has the odd behavior and since I learned with that one…). I have tried searching this thread but couldn’t find a similar issue nor how to fix it.
Here’s some signs that tell me something’s up:

  • Changing to other Shape modes coming from Volley (Sh/Cycle) doesn’t stop the lights from blinking, even if nothing is triggering the module.
  • Knob fiddling of any parameter creates abrupt changes when using any Sound mode, instead of the fluid changes that happen in my other JF (which, can be abrupt but not as much).
  • The three last outputs (4n,5n,6n) “blink” kind of in unison, regardless of the mode. This was the most obvious sign something was up - even in Cycle modes where every output is supposed to run independently!
    After seeing this I unpatched everything and tried running both JF side to side applying the same knob changes and they just do not behave the same way at all - I don’t know which one is the faulty one at this point lmao.

Maybe the user had an i2c connection that wasn’t killed before sending the module to me? Something like that?
Anyone have any ideas / possible explanations?

#673

It’s definitely not related to i2c, if you don’t have any current i2c connections.
Have you tried updating the unit that’s acting up? If that doesn’t do it, I would suggest contacting whimsical raps at service@whimsicalraps.com to inquire about repairs.

#674

Hm, can’t the intune ratios be edited in a semi-permanent fashion over I2C?

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#675

Completely slipped my mind! :sweat_smile: would reinstalling the firmware clear the slate? If not maybe recalibration?

#676

I think we will need to page @Galapagoose for those answers!

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#677

Doing the calibration routine will set all flash params to their default value, so you can certainly try that. Feel free to send me a video clip of the behaviour and I can help diagnose if it’s a hardware issue. Email to service@whimsicalraps.com

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#678

Hello lovelies,

I’ve had these two for awhile, but now I’m really diving into just friends as a sound source. What are some great ways to sync or complement with mangrove with its sound modes?

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#679

Using individual outputs for AM / FM modulation on mangroves can be fun, same for using SYNC on mangroves from JF outputs :slight_smile:

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#680

Since Formant can do subharmonics, I like to mix together some outputs of JF, the square from Mangrove and formant and put them through a sequential switch. or separate VCAs, e.g., for pseudo-arpeggios!

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#681

For some reason just friends popped up on my radar today. Since the center of my system is a teletype and 301 with i2c, I’m thinking just friends might be a way to get i2c controlled oscillators in this mix.

So with a i2c controlled JF (let’s just for a minute assume that I don’t put a filter or vca after it) using it primarily as an oscillator:

  1. can it act as 6 independent voices with separate envelopes?
  2. will I be able to control tonal quality (soft/bright) from the TT, including enveloping it, both over all and for individual voices?
  3. will it be possible to have it use dynamic voice allocation ala mutable rings?
  4. can it be split in say a bass voice, a lead voice and a four note chord?
  5. will putting a cable to individual outs remove that voice from mix out?
  6. can sending of voices to which outputs be controlled from TT?
  7. is there a reproduceable knob position (I imagine all the way CCW) that will allow me to have it in tune so that sending it V 0 will be a C?

Sorry for the just noob question…

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#682
  1. yes, and no. each voice has an envelope, but shape/length are tied to the panel controls
  2. no, the front panel controls will handle this stuff. (that said, you can script cv from TT to change those controls)
  3. voices can be selected manually via jf.vox commands, or handled by JF dynamically with jf.note commands
  4. any voice can be any note, so yes
  5. not in front of JF at the moment, but if memory serves, no.
  6. not sure I understand the question. each out 1-6 is a voice. you can decide what note that voice plays, but it will always come out of the same jack.
  7. pretty sure V0 is C3, unless you intentionally change the tuning.
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