I just got my JF back from repair … I could relatively easy repatch from the picture I’ve posted and got very similar vibes (sax like sounds), as you can hear here:
In a bigger patch in combination with other modules (upper part of the first picture):
A few parameters are a little different then show in my last post (but not by much) except for one big difference: I had to switch JF into “shape mode” to get similar “saxy” results. I have a few more pictures, this time with a running system which is also showing the parameters of OCP. Also added a screenshot of the FX I am using in Ableton:
A very general question about the silver and gold panel versions of just friends:
Can i get the golden panel features on a silver panel jf via a firmware update?
Iam Thinking about getting a second hand jf and the silverpanel version would be the less expensive option.
the different power draw is not a problem for me…Anything else that speaks against silver panel?
Any recommendation/ hint is pretty much appreciated.
feature-wise they are the same. the silver clouds version had an issue with the RUN jack that was fixed in later versions. silver cloud versions that have had the RUN jack fixed sport a high-heel sticker on the RUN jack.
Thanks, thats good to hear. So i can buy a silver panel jf, and if it isnt already fixed i can send it over to bastl (i read that they take care of eu customers)… right?
Btw. Insane prices atm.
Also FWIW I have a V1 version that I never got “fixed” and have had no issues for the 5 years I’ve owned it. My understanding is there’s only a few modules that are sensitive to the issue, and if you want to be extra careful you can always patch RUN first and avoid the problem completely.
Quick note that since v4.1 there is a compressor/limiter on the ALL output so distortion should no longer be an issue (though there is some interesting squishyness to it now).
For those of you using Teletype/Crow using the retune command, have you experienced a limit to the numbers you can set each numerator/denominator to? I’m using a simple max patch to assign ratios to each voice—seems that any numerator or denominator greater than 128 doesn’t get read by JF channels. Even something like 256/128 which could be reduced to 2/1 doesn’t work. Not sure if it matters but I’ve got the INTONE knob fully CW.
the values are limited to 8bit (0…255) but perhaps something is interpreting it as a signed value which would be (-128…127). that’s by design. i know there’s some classical just intonation ratios that use larger numbers than this, but in practice there’s a minimal difference to the nearest ratio in 8b/8b.
The Teletype operator is casting the JF.TUNE inputs down to unsigned 8-bit integers (0-255). Therefore if you’re hitting a cap at 128 it is internal to the Just Friends, as Trent hints above.
this thread had some excursions into pitch bends from TT/crow, but short answer is no, smooth vibrato isn’t possible. but maybe you can augment cheat codes to do some wonky pitch offsetting like mentioned here
the ratio change sounds smoother but difficult to get chord-like voicing
