#241

Ahh thank you thank you. Makes sense then

#242

Relatedly, I sometimes have trouble getting good levels when going straight through the PAs at venues – does using RIP negate the need for a DI box? Am I basically attenuating the signal twice by going into a DI box?

What should I be asking the sound folks to provide me to get the best sound quality/level ?

#243

It was my understanding that RIP is a passive DI box, I don’t think you should need to go through another one if you’re using RIP

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#244

Hello RIP users. I have picked up a DIY RIP recently and have a question about the RIP. I know you are supposed to use TRS cables when outputting the signal from RIP. What if you are inputting a line level into RIP from a guitar pedal rig? Should you use TRS cables in that circumstance as well?

#245

[edit: disregard, see Trent’s info below]

AFAIK: TRS is required, but you don’t need signal on both lines. Use half an insert cable if you have a strictly-TS source. You may experience 6dB lower volume output. TS doesn’t work because if you ever short tip and ring together then the balun transformer might cancel the signal entirely.

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#246

I’m going to disagree here. TS cables should work fine. The Ring will just be grounded which is, in this case, equivalent to floating. A TS shorts ring to shield, not tip to ring.

The real reason is that most guitar pedals require a TS cable in their output jack. Using a TRS cable, many pedals won’t turn on.

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#247

I found an surprise use for RIP today: You can really boost the noise from your powersupply if you want to diagnose the character of noise from digital modules to your power supply. :laughing:

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#248

If you use a 1/4"-to-1/8" cable, could you double up and get 20dB gain? :open_mouth:

#249

If you are going straight from your rack into the house system, no other DI needed.

I would pick up some long (~25’) TRS to XLR-M cables and you can go right into their stage snake / box from wherever you are on stage

The sound engineer will thank you :sunglasses:

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#250

I’ve been considering adding a DIY RIP next to my XOH before the audio goes out to my Zoom H6. I’ve never really heard any A/B examples of audio “lifted” by RIP and I’m wondering if someone can send me some quick examples so I can determine if RIP might be right for me. For what it’s worth, my modular setup is heavily populated by Make Noise and I’m a sinusoidal drone lover, so any examples with that in mind would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, friends!

#251

The lift switch simply solves the problem of 60 cycle hum/buzzing if you’re having grounding issues.

Maybe you’re curious about the sound of driving the iron cores?

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#252

Yeah, I think maybe I misunderstood what the lift was doing. I guess my curiosity is about the saturation added to the sound, and I thought lift had something to do with that. Am I also wrong in assuming that I wouldn’t be able to achieve the saturation without feeding some other CV into it, and thereby sacrificing one of the inputs to that? I thought I would be using it to saturate my left and right channels before they go into the recorder, but I think my understanding of the module is entirely incorrect now.

#253

i think “adding cv” to the inputs to drive saturation, is just adding a bit of offset to both channels before they go into rip. no need to sacrifice an input :slight_smile:

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#254

I saw that NW2S now has a couple transformer eurorack i/o modules available…

#255

As @Justmat is saying, you mix an offset with your signals that are going into the inputs of RIP. This can be done passively if you want, with stackables or a mult.

#256

Just wanted to share a new technique I’ve recently discovered.

After pulling the scope out, I realized when I tried to push modular levels on RIP harder with my VCA beforehand, I was clipping a bit at the rails. I decided to see if I could step up running into one 1/4" and the scope confirmed it…you can get some very high amplitude signals doing this without clipping. I then ran back into RIP with a patch cable connecting the 3.5mm inputs and the out of the 2nd 1/4" jack.(so stepping back down and hitting that 2nd transformer hard) I did some A/B’ing between straight from the modules and then out of my RIps and I feel like you get a very thick sound doing this, recommend trying it.

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#257

Interesting, but let me make sure I have this right. You started with-

Modular>vca>rip 1/8

and changed to-

Modular>rip 1/4>rip 1/8

Is that right? Thanks!

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#258

Modular -> rip 1/4 (1) -> (rip 1/8 1 -> 2 patch cable) -> rip 1/4 (2) -> to your interface or whatever.

EDIT: I know there is normaling with RIP…that patch cable may be redundant, not 100% sure how the normalization works in this config.

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#259

Ok, cool-will have to try that. I have a second rip originally built for quad performances, but it could be used to process a stereo signal the way you described. Thanks!

#260

Yep, I (rediculously) have 3 (2 1u adaptions, but same thing basically) :sweat_smile: was messing around with 3 voice patches, each oscillator going into one of the RIPs

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