Mannequins RIP, RIP?


#81

I just want to give Gil mo money.


#82

I think the transformers might be different, hence my snarky comment.


#83

That’s my understanding, I think they’re some secret custom transformers. But who knows what the aurally perceptible difference is :stuck_out_tongue:


#84

I think actually the transformers, at least the company, are mentioned specifically in this thread or another! Also in that thread, RIP seems to make Mannequins basically no money, so I imagine we won’t see any unless they end up with more transformers for another reason.


#85

The RIP transformers are public, and maybe the Please Exist mk1, P.E. mk2 dunno? Not that I’m following that closely :sunglasses:

Edit: I’m using one of those stereo Radial JDI DIs, which excepting any coloration real or imagined certainly helped squash a bunch of noise.


#86

Sorry after I wrote that I was like “of course @alanza knows how PE2 is designed, better than me”. Despite about 90% of what I write needing “light irony” markers around it I often fail to recognize it in others.

I also recognize it may have been somewhat 'splaining, and regardless how it came across, I am taking it as data for course correction.


#87

Yes, they are different transformers - RIP uses pricey Cinemag, Please Exist doesn’t. RIP fits in my isms case, please exist wouldn’t :slight_smile:


#88

I always wondered why the Please Exist DIY kit was $175 for something that seemed so basic. Then I learned about transformers.


#89

Yes they are pricey - You can go DIY and get an external passive box from here https://www.diyrecordingequipment.com/products/ferrite-di?variant=15269648708 and choose Cinemag CM-DBX transformer option - $150 and that’s just with 1 transformer.


#90

I never fully realized how lucky I was to get RIP second hand :sunny:


#91

If someone want to go DIY, these seem to be the transformers MengQi uses for Please Exist : https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2PCS-600-60K-permalloy-audio-isolation-transformer-balanced-and-unbalanced-conversion-audio-isolator/32811036755.html


#92

I figured i want sth else from such a module and going diy right now.
I wanted really unique response that i might be able to hear with my unprofessional monitoring… so i went for a big vintage iron core transformer (same price region as the Cinemags Gil uses) and wire it up at the end of a 8 to 1 mono summing pcb (retrokits + resistors for making it mono).

What i wont have is the high ratio of 1:15 or 1:12 the cinemags have wich is probably cool to boost line signals into the modular. But maybe 1:4 can give me a bit of that aswell.

Anyway afaik anther batch is coming some time this year. Just my plans turned out to a different need so->diy
And i need to squeeze that in 5hp to have room for a 2nd JF :smiley: damn addictive joys


#93

FWIW, please exist 2 sounds great.


#94

The Isms depth issue is my biggest concern with looking at the PE2 vs RIP.


#95

I believe that the Cinemag transformers are shielded and PE2’s are not. Probably not completely necessary in most systems, but it never hurts.

I would buy a RIP if any more were ever made available without hesitation. And, yes, partly just to “complete the set.”


#96

I’m not sure of the cost of the other components or amount of labor involved, but I just checked with Cinemag and it looks like the current cost of the CM-DBX-PC is $56.04 for quantities of 1-10, and $48.73 for quantities of 11-49. With the demand, is there the potential of a group buy or a Mannequins diy kit with everything minus the transformers?


#97

I’d love a mannequins diy kit for this :slight_smile:


#98

I’ve learned it’s a Bad Idea to Give Businesses Advice on How To Do Business, but perhaps if there were a group of folks who wanted a RIP so much that they’d pre-pay for it, that might offset the liquidity bruise associated with having to acquire such an expensive payload of raw materials … ?


#99

#100

:clap: Now I just wish to see the same for cold mac :smiley: