I picked up a new W/ this week & decided to install the new 2.0 firmware as it looked significantly easier to interact with - here are some observations using the ‘Tape’ mode (the sketch book idea with hours available with ability to overdub is the reason for buying):

  • The length of my ‘tape’ is approximately 4 mins & 20 seconds (+/- 2 seconds) … certainly not 8 hours
  • I have struggled to get it to record…
  • 1st attempt: I thought you had to press ‘Record’ to start recording & press again to stop. I did this and it didn’t record anything?! (Scrubbing backwards I just heard silince).
  • 2nd attempt: I then tried pressing ‘play’ first & then ‘record’ followed by a 2nd ‘record’ to stop recording - that didn’t work either. (Scrubbing backwards I just heard silince).
  • 3rd attempt: I then tried the same procedure as attempt 2 but after pressing the first ‘record’ I then pressed ‘loop’ and then ‘loop’ & ‘record’ to start it looping & stop recording. I didn’t get any sound out of it again until I then switched the looping off (held down ‘loop’) and then I heard that I actually managed to record something (and found the tape was only 4m 20s long) … so I was fairly happy to be able to at least record something but it definitely doesn’t seem to work as the instructions at the top suggest).
  • Trying to scrub through only 4 mins 20 sec of audio was painful, I can’t imagine how this would work if I had 8 hours of tape to move through.

Looking forward to the next firmware update - my two main concerns are that the tape length is tiny & recording is not very easy to achieve.

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Here’s my observations on tape mode and the way I record a loop in v2.

I believe the 8 hours of material was removed in this beta because cue points were removed. If you want a sketchbook with hours of info - You may want to go back to v1 and try that version. 1 of my w/ is still on v1 for that reason, but obviously you will lose the other 2 modes from v2 and crow support. With cue modes in V1 the idea is to jump to different parts of the tape not scrub through hours of material.

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I am checking this out now, currently playing with W/Del.

I am getting A LOT of noise, enough to effect a mix.

Apart from that I am loving the character of the delay.

Finally updated one of my w/s and have only experimented with delay mode so far. Such a brilliant use of this cute lil interface, Trent! I’ve been kind of shocked by how intuitive it’s been to switch between parameters, and the clever idea to use the toggle switch as a ‘knob’ for each parameter works sooo well. I don’t find it menu-divey at all. I’ve been on the fence about keeping my Mimeophon and feel like once the kinks are smoothed out, and especially once the lowpass parameter is implemented, I’ll probably have all the delay I need in w/ : )

A couple observations:

  • Definitely echo some others’ feelings that a way to get back to zero modulation / turning the ‘knob’ back to the center, so to speak, would be great (maybe something like holding down the button associated with the parameter in question and flicking the toggle up??) I could see this feature being especially useful for the modulation setting, where it’s hard for me to turn the modulation off once I play around with it. Would also help for the time setting, where a simple gesture could bring the time back to x1.

  • I’ve gotten some clicky glitchy noise, I think mostly when modulation amount is changed even a little bit. Also a lot of squeaky noise when ‘time’ is changed

  • When setting a tap tempo, it works correctly the first time I set it in a session, and if I reset the tempo to a faster rate, that works too! But when I try to reset the tempo to a slower tempo than it currently is, it weirdly doesn’t register at all. My easy solution is to just hold the toggle down to clear the current tempo settings and reset the tempo.

  • The zoom feature is super cool! But sometimes it doesn’t really seem to multiply or divide correctly and just gives me seemingly random tempos that are super aliased-sounding, sometimes giving off a super high-pitched tone!

Anyway, I’m sure most of this is stuff that’s already been said above, but as someone who benefits so much from the work that you and others around here do, I just wanted to contribute in a teeny way and give my own thoughts here. thank you !!

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Is the synth mode working with Teletype? :slight_smile:

It is slowly being added here:


Basically all the i2c commands should be possible to call for all 3 W/ modes, but retrieving values from W/ is still missing (so for example you can’t check on teletype the current value for fm ratio etc.)

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Yes, it’s working for me

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Hello there! I’ve just bought my W due to this exciting update, very overwhelmed to integrate it with the i2c ecosystem. Sorry for the newbie question, but:
Can someone tell me what is the command to open the fm Synth in Druid? I’ve just researched in thread but no results :sweat_smile:
Thank you

In general you can enter ii.help() to show you the names of the possible devices. Enter ii.wsyn.help() to get the commands specific to WSyn. Good luck!

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Not with my w/, but I think you need to enter w/synth from the w/ panel controls. i.e. hold rec + play + loop etc…

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Thank you all: I would try to dig in W/synth with ii commands because I didn’t have good chances to play it with cv commands…but maybe it’s a fault of mine!
Now I’m trying again to play it by First running in Crow (by cvs of course), keep you posted.
Tape mode and Delay sooooper cool!

The w/synth really shines through i2c since you can control so much of it via the commands. But sometimes I get hella confused swapping between modes.

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How’s development going? I’m particularly interested in the full tape length and the timestamp control.

Do you mean the teletype integration? I did not have time to finish receiving data from W/ but sending all commands to W/ is already implemented so in case of timestamp and seek the commands are:

W/T.TIME seconds subseconds      
W/T.SEEK seconds subseconds 

If you will find any bug please let me know. The firmware is available to download in topic that I linked few posts earlier.

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Oh no, sorry, not referring to Teletype integration but rather norns integration. I may have misunderstood what the issue is. The original post at the top just says that timestamp is broken.

Is that a Teletype firmware update or a W/ firmware update? Sorry, I haven’t had my coffee yet this morning…

Yeah, so it looks like it is broken on W/ side so this will affect any ii i tegration. The post that I linked has firmware only for teletype integration, sorry

There were issues with w/tape and the time stamp functionality had not yet been introduced. This was a beta test to see how functionality worked in the wild. Trent has suggested that much work needs to be done still.

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No sweat, @karol! Thanks for the info, @kasselvania.

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I was able to get some really quite amazing bit crush/ring mod type sounds out of beta firmware w/ tape just now, as I recorded a loop. I had some random voltages in this/that and was generally just mashing buttons. A power cycle fixed it. Not a terribly scientific bug report, but there you go. It did sound pretty ace tbf.