Does anyone have the new crow rc? The link up top doesn’t seem to be working… I saw @Justmat doing some lovely things with w/2 and crow over on instagram and it got me jonesing to try it out…

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The link seems to be working now!

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Bizarre, I’m still getting the GitHub 404 octocat at the crow link… I’ve cleared caches, history, opened fresh browsers… I may just have to wait for it to sort itself out.

EDIT: Sign in to GitHub for access

I also get the 404 page for Crow 2.1RC. Speaking from previous experience with GitHub, that usually means I don’t have permission, so maybe the RC isn’t actually set to public?

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It looks like it’s downloadable if you’re logged into github, but 404s if you are not. I also noticed it’s not listed under Releases for the repo.

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Wow, you’re right! Since this isn’t my work computer, I wasn’t logged in. But it works when I am. :thinking:

Ah that makes sense - it’s a link to an automated build which isn’t really meant as a ‘release’, just a quick way to share in-progress updates without requiring me to go through the whole release process for each beta. I’ll wrap up the crow release today so it won’t be an issue, but have noted that those files aren’t publicly accessible.

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I’m getting some weird behavior in W/Tape when trying to set loop_start and loop_end - it seems to only ever make the loop smaller, and it’s never what I tried to set it to. It doesn’t seem to matter whether or not it’s playing. Setting timestamp directly seems to work quite well, though!

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@Galapagoose, Is this correct/working as intended?

ii.wtape.get('loop_start') returns 0.001220778
while sitting on the loop_start point and issuing ii.wtape.get('timestamp') returns 23.71721

getting loop_end returns a seconds value as expected.

@license i think loop_start and loop_end are called to set the loop points to the current position/timestamp. i don’t think you can pass a position as an argument.

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@license justmat is correct. loop_start and loop_end set the loop points to the current playhead. if you want to set them to a timestamp you can just chain the two commands (though perhaps a delay will be required? let me know):

-- make a 4 second loop starting at 23.4 seconds
ii.wtape.timestamp( 23.4 )
ii.wtape.loop_start()
ii.wtape.seek( 4.0 )
ii.wtape.loop_end()

@Justmat thanks for the report. i will take a look at what could be causing this. It’s quite possible start & end are flipped.

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this is soooo much easier to use than the cue system, imo. just keep up with your timestamps and recalling loops is easy peasy!

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Ahh thanks @Justmat and @Galapagoose - that makes so much sense! I think the asymmetry of the getter and setter was throwing me off but I should have just read the API help docs more carefully.

Hey there!
W/ update seems beautiful!
Unfortunately I’ve recently had issue during cv settings:
I’m in W/Synth, when I try to assign cv value to THIS (pressing rec+inserting cable) the white led of LOOP section stops working and remain without light also changing to Tape or Delay mode.
(I’ve tried W/ alone in a small case and also in a i2c setup with JF+Ansible+2x Crow+Er-301).
Any suggestions? Maybe a little bug?
Thank you!!

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If the light isn’t working in any mode, it sounds like a hardware problem. Send an email to service@whimsicalraps.com and we’ll sort it out.

Edit: Unless you mean restarting the module makes it ok, but when you enter CV assign mode it stops working?

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Yes, totally: seems that the cv assignment procedure put the led out of work…
Restarting the module several times (connecting and deconnecting the i2c for e.g) put the led in working condition😕

Oh! If the light is working again after a restart, it definitely seems like firmware.

When you are doing the CV assignment, which mode are you in to start with (which lights are on when you enter assignment)? Which mode do you try and select? If you ‘cancel’ the assignment by pressing up, does the light still stop working?

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Always in synth mode, persists also canceling the assignment.
Maybe a fault of mine but:
The problem appears in relation with the Cv which I try to put in.
If the cv it’s very short (always with a trigger or a gate) the white led disappears.
Otherwise if a try to put a bipolar cv, the white led keeps on working.
I thought that it can accept also triggers and gates😅

EDIT:
It happens in all modes but the “white led issue“ is related only to the loop section led.
As I said, the problem appeared the first time in cv assignment mode, but the led stops working anytime a short cv (trigger gate) flows in this/that.
All the times that I re-connect the i2c on the back, the led restarts in working condition.

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Incredible! It is working now, at least partially, and great fun!

I am using it as a looper basically.

What i do not understand, or it may be broken is how to reverse playback direction but keeping the loop. For me it seems loop start is kept, and end is moved into the other direction (so it plays a different recorded range), instead of just swapping loop points!?

Also i would very much appreciate a loop setting mode that uses cv loop taps to set (e.g. long press on loop deletes current loop, another long press arms loop, next two cv taps set loop start and end). Same for record? Like long press record = arm → record between next two taps

Anyway, this update is usable enough already so that i wont sell :wink:

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are you sure you’re doing the button combos in the right order? pressing down and then “play” will get you in reverse. The other order will slow down the speed. It sounds like you could be pressing “loop” by accident… “loop” and toggling down will halve the loop. I believe if you’re in the first half of the loop it is supposed to loop the first half, and if you’re in the second half of the loop it will loop from the middle to the end. hope that helps :slight_smile:

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Just got it installed, was able to make some sense of W/Del. Had some trouble sorting out W/Syn. Have yet try W/Tape.

Finding the documentation difficult to parse. For example, it would be great if the documentation said a bit more upfront about what the default settings are for This and That, It took searching the thread to discover Alanza saying that This defaulted to gate and That to cv.

Maybe I missed something, but I don’t think so.

It was fun getting W/Del to synch to an external clock. One thing that’s not clear with W/Del is how you change the Controls from yellow to white. The Controls are listed by those two colors, but I don’t see anything saying how to choose one or the other, or even both, as some settings require.

Here’s another one:

CV

THIS and THAT can be freely assigned to any of 10 parameters, by holding record while inserting the jack. Each input is assigned separately and have the same destination options. Choose the destination parameter by pressing the 3 buttons, then flick the toggle down to confirm your choice. If you don’t want to change the assignment, just flick the toggle up to return.

Does “Choose the destination parameter by pressing the 3 buttons” mean all at once or one after the other, as needed to change the Modes?

Thanks, and sorry for not just getting it off the bat…

Edit: It could be clearer when one is to hold something while pressing something else, or if the holding needs to be for a certain amount of time. For example, in @renegog’s post immediately before (or after) this one, he states: “pressing down and then “play” will get you in reverse.”

Does that mean pressing and releasing down and then pressing play, or holding down while pressing play?