#81

Wow! W/Dly is fantastic! Much fun, quickly gaining memory for the lights. Have not tried any cv besides clocking.

I did have the clocking fail on me once but have not been able to replicate it. It happened when clocking the delay very very fast and manipulating the time with toggle up/down. It would not respond to slower clock pulses after a very fast chain of clock pulses. Tried changing the pulse width but didn’t have any effect.

Other than the one hiccup, it is very responsive to clock rate modulation!

It would be nice to cut the modulation more easily, have not found a way to find a dead spot again after adding the rate modulation.

W/tape will take a bit of getting used to. The loop functions work well as described. Had some issues with doubling and halving loop times, knowing if they would grow at the start or end of the loop.

The speed controls and tape reverses while playing are very cool.

My use of tape will likely have to change now that there are no set cues to jump back and forth between. I had been making significant use of the six separate “tapes” as a way of organizing types of loops, I will likely miss that more than the cue points.

I did get some very crunchy stuff that I was not expecting when trying to record with the tape in the reverse direction, couldn’t figure out what specific settings were causing it, will report back if I can re-create reliably. Sounded a bit like what happened to Trent in the stream when first trying to use a new w/ for tape demo.

I will say that I never really got the hang of moving individual cues around or removing single cue points if I had even a day off from the rack. I would often clear the cue points from a whole tape and then go in and add cues in again with the tape playing at a slower speed rather than accidentally add a bunch of very short loops while trying to move cues around.

Sorry for the rambling, may clean up a bit later.

Have not tried w/fm

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#82

Here’s some noodles from today. I’ve encountered a few glitches and odd/unexpected behaviors but was focused on just playing/exploring today. Will document more thoroughly tomorrow.

Will say that I am loving it so far. The delay is great and super easy to use/un-fiddly (my biggest complaint with v1), tape is also very straightforward and easy to grasp and perform, and the 2-op FM synth is a blast and can produce some lovely sounds. Recordings are long as I was just hitting record and noodling. The last recordings are using 2 w/s, synth into delay. Very enjoyable first session, nice work @Galapagoose!

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#83

I definitely ran across this today as well

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#84

I think maybe what is happening here is it ‘counts’ the play+up/down motions even outside of the usable range, I noticed after mashing play+up a bunch of times more then was recognized I had to hit play+down just as many times to get it back into the usable range. Maybe something worth ironing out?

Also this - sort of digital noise that has been mentioned seems to be about all I can get from W/tape so far, not that bummed as it sounds pretty cool though :sweat_smile:

Otherwise really loving this update so far, the controls of W/tape already feel very intuitive and playable to me, whereas w/1 took me a long time to only sort of grasp.

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#85

For those who’ve not noticed yet, @karol over in the Teletype 3.2+ feature requests and discussion thread has released a Teletype firmware update that is already using:

W/S.P voice pitch
W/S.V voice velocity
W/S.PV voice pitch velocity
W/S.PN pitch velocity
W/S.AR ar_mode
W/S.LT lpg_time
W/S.LS lpg_symmetry
W/S.C curve
W/S.R ramp
W/S.FI fm_index
W/S.FR fm_numerator fm_denomenator
W/S.FE fm_envelope_amt

Exciting days are at hand.

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#86

same here. I can get only half speed. could be user error…still very new to me

#87

playing with the delay mode today. Nice - it’s very immediate.

I notice a reasonable amount of aliasing artefacts when you are modulating the rate a fair bit - being in the process of writing a rate modulate-able loop plugin myself I know how hard these are to iron out. There probably is a point where there isn’t much you can do and having the wide modulation range is better than preventing all glitches

Also, this isn’t quite a bug but something, if you modulate rate (which is meant to be v8) with -ve voltages (between 0 and -5) it does some odd stuff! nothing horrible but confused me for a bit until I realised I had the voltage range wrong

#88

W/Tape

Is this working for anyone else? I’ve tried assigning the trigger on THIS & THAT, and neither seem to be either setting the loop relative to the clock, or reseting an existing loop.

#89

Same. Couldn’t get either working.

#90

Found a big problem with w/syn: now I want more w/

All jokes aside, @Galapagoose, you’ve done an amazing job of squeezing a lot of functionality into this strange little interface. I’ve not even tried any crow integration to expose more parameters simultaneously. The range of sounds that I can dial in just from the front of the panel are fantastic. I could certainly see swapping out some of the modules in my mini case so that I have a w/Dly and w/Syn running with complimentary control modules and not much else.

The envelope for the LPG has a funny dip in volume with long envelope times and a fairly even 50/50 rise/fall. Not even a complaint, just an observation.

I think the numerator/denominator button combos are missing up in the doc. I see them for cv control but not for toggle. I’d edit, but I feel like I 'd word it wrong. Edited, please clean up if you can word it more clearly.

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#91

Loaded firmware again. Changed mode to W/Del, that worked fine. Changed back to W/Tape and now I’m managing to record, but with wildly inconsistent results. Sometimes it records, sometimes it doesn’t.

I tried toggling record on (and off) in various states of stop and play. One combination would work (toggling record on while tape is stopped, for instance, then starting play) – it would record what I played into W/, I could rewind and play it back – and then just after, the same combination would record nothing.

I would love it if it would simply record whenever record was toggled on and tape is running, no matter how or when play is toggled on or off. As it is now, this seems not to be the case, at least for me.

Another thing that happened at one point was that W/ recorded the tape being rewound. In effect recording itself. I had it in full overdub mode, and I would love it if this is how it is supposed to work, but again it was something I then wasn’t able to reproduce.

Thanks!

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#92

W/Tape CV

In both cases it doesn’t seem to be doing anything when stopped.

Also if you stop the tape, pull the CV cable, and play again, it remembers the last CV-controlled speed. Is that as intended?

#93

Great!.. please don’t bring back Cue’s…

I finally managed to make a sound and a loop without reading the manual for hours… was just about to sell this but now will keep

How about better looping behavior, something akin to the ‘Endlesss’ looper, where if clocked, audio is buffered for 4 bars and pressing loop will loop what you just played, with selectable bar lengths, instead of punching in, it’s much much better for performance and much less stressful…punching in is a bit street busker / boss looper PLEEEAAAASSSSEEE do this if it’s possible. Retrospective looping!

Getting some strange artifacts when change tape speed, also when overdubbing, some kind of FM modulation when overdubbing… sounds cool though :wink:

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#94

I’m a bit mixed on this. Firstly this is a much more featured update then I was anticipating, but I’m mostly thankful for a more stable, easier to navigate thing.

Tape mode, with TT integration is really what I came for so the loss of the cues feels big to me. I had hoped a future update would centre around improving this. It seems I can achieve similar results with Crow, and timestamps now, (is their a timestamp op for TT?).

Multiple tapes was a great original feature, which I for one would like to see return if possible. (Perhaps the option between 1 long continuous VS several tapes).

Anyways, thank you @Galapagoose for your work with this, and being sincere enough to address the problems many faced on a very cool module. I suspect mine will see much more use now.

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#95

With the tape mode is it possible for playback to auto start and loop when recording reaches the end? I assumed it was 1 press to start recording. 1 press to end recording. Then it autoplays your loop? Currently it just stops.

Do you press record + loop at the start, and record + loop at the end? A bit confused by the live performance aspect of the tape loop were I like to record and loop on the fly.

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#96

Simplifying in a modular context makes sense to me.
For a super minimal setup, loading lots of tricks and features can bring a lot of felxibility. However, in my case, I am happy with one long tape. I don’t even need level control as this feels much more intuitive using external VCA’s.

One of the great features W/ had was the slowing down which had a very nice sounding character. I am very much hoping you bring this back.

The synth again is a nice extra for a smaller systems. I guess I will never use it.

The cue system was a mess for me. I often put cues where there shouldn’t be. Happy this is gone. However, it would be nice to jump around in the tape via CV, perhaps some kind of meta loops inside a larger loop. Almost like granular with longer grain times.

But hey…i Just spend a short time with the tape beta…so just a little feedback and thanks for continue putting effort in this innocence looking 2HP !

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#97

For those who tripped up a little on OSX opening the zip only to find a crow.bin file - if you grab the osx_linux-update_firmware.command file from another firmware release and run that in the same directory as crow.bin, it should update Crow correctly :slight_smile:

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#98

I’m experiencing some noise during recording on tape mode. Both when using the front panel and while controlled with Crow.
I noticed it first thing after I loaded the new firmware, only thing i did before was check the mode i was in, without changing.

Can reproduce consistently by:

  • get tape rolling monitoring audio input
  • set loop start and end
  • press record (occasional noise is audible)
  • press record again (noise stops and newly recorded audio unaffected)

I have some recordings if helpful in debugging, just give me a nudge and I’ll upload them

#99

If you have it playing and recording you press “loop” to set the start point and “loop” again to set the end point and begin looping—so pressing loop twice instead of flicking the switch down and up. The only difference from the old version (other than the button instead of switch) is that recording stays engaged when you begin looping. Personally, I love this, it always threw me off that recording would stop when I began looping, but with the new firmware you just have to do the extra step of pressing record if you don’t want it to keep recording over the loop I think, but maybe not “record+loop” simultaneously because that’s what enables the “echo mode” options.

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#100

thanks for that @nattog

I copied the druid script from the end of the last demo vid for those interested in a nice w/syn i2c base to play with:

--- w2.0 demo time

function init()
  output[1].scale(lydian)
  output[1](loop{ to(2,2,'sine'), to(0,0.4,'rebound')})
  output[2](pulse(0.1))
  metro[1].time = 0.3
  metro[1].event = next_note
  metro[1]:start()
end

six = 1
function next_note()
  ii.wsyn.play_note(lydian[six]/12, 2)
  six = ((six+1) % #lydian) + 1
  ii.wsyn.play_note(lydian[six]/12, 2)
  six = (six % #lydian) + 1
end

-- some scales for later
penta = {0,2,4,7,9}
lydian = {0,2,4,6,7,9,11}
dorian = {0,2,3,5,7,9,10}
wholetone = {0,2,4,6,8,10}
diminished = {0,3,6,9}
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