Would be interested to know how people are getting on with the size? For such a deep module that advertises the need for button combos etc it seems like maybe an odd decision to make it so small. As far as I can tell there is no particular reasoning for squeezing it into 2hp?

Obviously massive props to WR for pulling it off, fitting this much into 2hp must have caused some real design challenges! Looking out for a glimpse of the PCB.

My Morphagene by comparison is 10x bigger, yet I have never questioned it’s size as I feel it is completely justified by it’s functions and play-ability.

I’m cool w/ the size. I do wish it had three modulation inputs instead of two, but overal it’s a pleasure to work with. 4HP, for example, would not have made it any easier to get used to imho.

One thing I learnt quite quickly was that reading the manual without a w/ will not help understanding it. You really gotta dive in.

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I have to say that the size is one of the main reasons I purchased. I’m trying to downsize, so max functionality in min hp is great for me. My guess is that there will be some kind of accompanying module, but we’ll have to see.

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I would love to see an expansion module for this. I’d purchase it immediately.

I like the size. It’s well laid-out and is obviously a feat of engineering given the 10 LEDs, momentary switch and 3 buttons!

I do wish there was an indication of tape position. Currently, you can only tell when the tape is:

  • at the beginning
  • at the end
  • somewhere between the beginning and the end
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I’m really starting to like mine! A lot of what I thought were bugs was just me not doing something right. Still have to power cycle now and then.

Maths makes a great companion as well as cold mac…

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Not sure if this is documented or not, but I’ve noticed I have to press down twice to go to a previous cue, whereas going forward only requires one press up.

I was getting this as well. It seemed to me like it was usually a sound from one of the bounds of the loop that didn’t appear to get overwritten when record got turned on. So w/ a negative voltage plugged into THAT the rest of the sound was decaying in the loop but the blip on the edge would linger, and sometimes prove hard to remove even if I removed the loop. But like others have reported, i feel like these things would start to happen as other issues cropped up. Or could be a mixture of naĆÆvetĆ© and smaller bugs. So i’m at a loss to really isolate what it’s going on.

An issue which seemed related in my head was that I’d often get a little pop at the loop bounds when the loop went across the edge. This reminded me a lot of the op-1 tape which had this same issue for a while (i think largely fixed in the newest os) and recording on a looping tape track could accumulate pops at the loop points. I’m assuming the little pop is a discontinuity in the wave(?) as it could be tamed w/ certain sounds, but it made setting a short loop and using the device as a delay tricky as I’d often end up w/ a frequently recurring pop in the delay line. As both these issues seemed to be happening at the bounds of the loop it struck me they might be related.

Anyway, while my 4-5 hours messing around w/ this thing yesterday had some irksome moments which I’d round towards learning curve / bugs, I was on the whole utterly blown away by how cool this module is and how much potential it had.

I’m trying to stick to 104hp so this is so true for me. I guess I was worried that w/ might be taking this too far, but it sounds like people are getting on fine! Will almost certainly pick one up once some of these teething problems have been ironed out.

It will be interesting to see if the popularity of modules like w/ accelerate the trend towards smaller, densely functioning modules like the micro-MI ones that keep popping up.

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aside from the diy efforts of fans, i’d be shocked if a ā€œtraditionalā€ expander module sees the light of day

whimsical seems focused on cramming as much into their gear as possible & when the controls extend beyond the UX confines of one module…an expander already exists: teletype

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Speaking of which, I thought @Galapagoose said he would publish a Teletype firmware with W/ Ops on Monday (yesterday?).

I wonder though if he isn’t up to his neck in building/ordering/supplying an unexpectedly high number of modules.

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Depending on the added interfacing options, this TT firmware might finally get me to buy a TT.

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Just recorded a quick delay test with Mac & W/: https://www.instagram.com/p/BgjXOlCjsjW/

edit: same test, but with STO as the sound source: https://instagram.com/p/BgjbsBTjzhe/

Very simple notes:
Cold Mac left(and later right) goes into ā€˜That’.
W/ is in ā€˜LIVE’ mode.

The delay’s mostly only repeat once. Notice that when I remove the cable from ā€˜left’, the feedback of the delay rises and the repeats intensify.

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Quick feature request for W/

@Galapagoose
Would it be possible to have ā€˜record’ stop automatically when a loop reaches it’s end point instead of overdubbing? Maybe as an optional setting. I’d think it would be handy for creating ā€˜clean’ loops.

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this diagram supports your finding. the first L+down arrow would take you back to your current cue. And the following L+down would take you to the previous. My assumption is after getting back to the previous cue additional L+downs would move backwards and not require a second command, unless you did it so slowly the tape had moved forward. I want to spend some focused time w/ the cue mode, on the whole I found most of Live and Nav mode worked as expected, but moving cues and loops seemed to be the thing where I got lost on the tape/in my head.
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So true - people requesting an expander are the very ones without other Whimsical / Monome modules. Teletype, Cold Mac, Just Friends, Walk are the expanders :slight_smile:

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Is there a relationship between the two? I guess I didn’t know that.

Both very cool, though. :slight_smile: I’m really tempted by TT but software is what I already do all day…I kind of designed my eurorack experience to get me away computers.

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You will be missing out. It is a different kind of coding experience. Simple, Elegant and Beautiful. Its limitations are its greatest strength, in my opinion. This keeps it from being a ā€œcoding exerciseā€ and creates more of a feeling of ā€œfine craftingā€.

I’m clearly biased, but it really is an amazing instrument.

@Kel put it quite well in the Teletype Workflow for Dummies thread:

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Hey, thanks for the response. Well, I’m not convinced – but I’m more amenable to the idea. :slight_smile: I did like the concept, and I appreciate that they’ve turned it into something different. Part of me is still like ā€œuntil I can actually do this for my job…I want to keep them separateā€ā€¦but this is great input. Thanks! (And I’ll probably eventually give in. I’m a sucker for exploring interfaces)

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yeah

i think @voidstar showed in his demo clip how cold mac already fits nicely in context with w/