its that its jumping to NAV without me touching the top joystick - shouldn’t pressing play stop playback altogether not jump to NAV? Conversely i can’t go into forward direction NAV at all because when I press play again it goes back to LIVE Mode.

So basically pressing play is toggling between Live Forward play or Backwards Navigation

@Mondrian pressing play moves between nav and play mode. so anytime you stop playback you are in nav mode and THAT is controlling the speed of playback

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So how do you get THAT to control the tape age etc in reverse playback?

you would get into nav mode. hold down + press play. this puts w/ into reverse playback in Live mode at which point you can use THAT for tape age effects

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Edit: to clarify this, you are toggling between Live mode and Nav mode running at a speed setting based on your current THAT input (or stopped if there is no input) so if your THAT is at +5 you will jump to 2x forward playback when you come out of LIVE. If THAT is at -5 you’d come out to 2x backwards playback. If your THAT input was precisely 0v your W/ would be stopped. Similarly if your THAT was unpatched in nav mode play is stopped.

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I think you’re a bit confused about NAV. NAV does not go forwad by pressing ‘play’. It goes forward by either sending cv or pressing the switch up when no CV is plugged in.

Pressing play in NAV will always go into live mode.

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While in nav mode slowly play w/ the voltage going into THAT, i think this is probably the best way to see the effect this is having on THAT. and while a cable is patched into THAT when you leave live mode you will be jumping to playback controlled by this voltage (again unless it is zero)

From nav mode this is the combo to get reverse playback in live
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Sorry I’m not explaining this very well.

I’ve recorded a loop.

Without any CV into THAT Pressing PLAY takes me into LIVE mode and plays the loop. Pressing Play again takes me back into NAV - i get that, and there is no sound played back (because i’m not in live mode) If i press down on the joystick that scrolls back through the tape (Audibly) and press up that scrolls forward through the tape… So far so Good.

now

I’m still in NAV - there’s no sound because i’ve not hit Play (as above) If I put an OFFSET into THAT, Playback starts immediately in NAV (without me pressing anything). Pressing the Play button now takes me back to Playing forward in LIVE. Pressing the play button again doesn’t take me back to no sound it takes me to backward NAV.

So I suppose i’m asking is it possible to navigate between forward Live mode (IE 2 top lights on) and reverse Live mode (2 lights on) whilst also having an offset into THAT without it going automatically into NAV when you press PLAY.

Sorry this is a bit confusing.

ok thanks very much - that explains it - so you need to have 0V into THAT to avoid playback automatically being controlled whether you’ve pressed PLAY or not.

thanks that makes sense to me now. very helpful thanks

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I’m planning on using Maths to generate voltages for THAT, but I’m also curious what sources ya’ll are using. TT? Cold Mac?

I’ve been using an unpatched attenuverter or a sum of an attenuated just friends trigger and an offset. The former has been really convenient for setting feedbacks in Live mode and speed in Nav. The latter has been cool in Nav where you can change the speed w/ the offset and add some modulation to the speed w/ pulses sent to JF in shape/transient using the JF.VTR channel velocity, where the velocity setting controls how much the pitch is shifted.

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Coning back to W/ after a few days away from it and I’m surprised that I have remembered all of the key combos and modes.

However, I still can’t figure out how to properly use Cue mode. I get in to Cue mode okay. I can press L + Up to move to the next Loop Start mark. I think I can move to the previous Loop Start with L + Down twice.

Other than that, I’m lost. How do I delete cues? Can someone give me a step by step?

On the subject of Deleting Tapes. Given that @Galapagoose implied it was already possible, I spent an hour trying every key combo I could think of from both Cue and Global - but my tapes refused to erase.

After waiting about 30mins for a tape to rewind and then nearly an hour and a half to record over a tape with ‘nothing’, I’d love it if this could be ‘discovered’ soon.

I feel like I need a blank slate before I can start experimenting with TT control.

Did it also delete the cues?

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Can you please share info on how to delete a tape?

I’m away from my w/, but i had some luck w/ deleting/adding the other night.

Once in cue mode are you using R to delete? I only ask because the manual says L, and I was doing this for a while confused (because per the instructions L also exits Cue mode which was happening). The ref card says R deletes/saves which makes more sense and leads me to believe the manual is just a typo.

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Yes, there is a typo in the manual regarding deleting cues (forthcoming manuals have the correction) and the reference card is correct.

Delete a cue in cue mode using R.

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Thanks for clearing that up. @Galapagoose also said that there was a way to delete the tape. Can this already be done or will it be implemented in a firmware update?

Really appreciate your communication given how busy you all must be. Thanks!

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Nope. Not even 20 characters worth.