Mannequins W/ (with)

[rikrak]

Once in cue mode are you using R to delete? I only ask because the manual says L, and I was doing this for a while confused (because per the instructions L also exits Cue mode which was happening). The ref card says R deletes/saves which makes more sense and leads me to believe the manual is just a typo.

(& @izzy)

I’ve been trying R - but what exactly should I be doing?

Here’s what I do:

• enter Cue mode by pressing L + R
• hold L + press Up to find the beginning of the next Loop
• hold Play to audition the Loop (yep, that’s a loop I want to delete)
• press R (now the right-hand Rec button lights up)
• hold Play again (yep, that’s still the loop I want to delete, looping away)

Obviously, if I hold R down, it goes to Global mode.

What am I doing wrong?

EDIT: also - why does it say R “deletes/saves”?! Surely I would want to do those two operations with different user inputs - not the same button?

EDIT4: ok, just had to reboot several times. I think I’m going to leave W/ until it’s been patched. I gave it a few days off because all the rebooting blew the fuse in my rack (Doepfer PSU3 - replaced the fuse easily enough), and I don’t want to risk damaging any of my modules.

[noctambulance]

One confusing behavior I’ve come across: when I press play, sometimes it defaults to playing at higher-speed by default.

Is this because somehow I’m recording at a lower speed and play defaults to normal, or is there a way to set this thing back to default at playing at normal speed?

I’m perplexed.

[Oneven]

Is this because somehow I’m recording at a lower speed and play defaults to normal, or is there a way to set this thing back to default at playing at normal speed?

I think so. Just as when recording to tape, w/ records at the set speed. This is handy when you want to have a recording play backwards while overdubbing forward

[Starthief]

I’ve been trying R - but what exactly should I be doing?

Here’s what I do:

enter Cue mode by pressing L + R
hold L + press Up to find the beginning of the next Loop
hold Play to audition the Loop (yep, that’s a loop I want to delete)
press R (now the right-hand Rec button lights up)
hold Play again (yep, that’s still the loop I want to delete, looping away)

When you let go of Play when auditioning, the tape stops in place – not on the cue. Hold L+Down to move back to the cue position (or L+Up to go to the next one) and then hit R.

[Oneven]

Just checked this out. It works! Thank you

[unity2k]

Order #1549 from Whimsical is shipping today. Just got confirmation.

[quixot]

You just put my mind at ease! I am in the mid-1600’s. They must have sold a TON of these. So very exciting.

[demangone]

Alerted this afternoon that the label was printed for order #1544, no indication of the actual shipping date or estimated delivery but still good to receive any update. Was a single W/ without slashes for anyone keeping track.

[rikrak]

Thanks @Starthief. I thought I had it working that way earlier but then the module froze and I couldn’t be sure. It makes sense but I had lost confidence in the procedure by that point!

[rainlet]

Awesome. I’m only 10 away, so hopefully I’ll get a confirmation soon!

[Aetherpulse]

I still have issues with it locking up when changing tape. And sometimes it gets stuck in one part of the tape with the white loop light on but can’t navigate away…

[altoaiello]

Can’t wait for tt commands for resetting THIS and THAT when I get confused after unplugging things and/or switching modes. Also to make delay presets.

[Starthief]

Reposting something I just wrote for the confused over at MW:

Easy ways to get results:

Looping delay:

1. Go into live mode (playing).
2. Make sure looping is turned OFF.
3. Make sure you have a sound source connected.
4. Hit RECORD + DOWN (this overwrites any junk that might have been on the tape).
5. Push DOWN to start a loop point… wait for however long you want the tape loop delay to be, and push UP.
6. Plug in a negative voltage offset from a controller into THAT.
7. Hit RECORD. Play stuff into the input.
8. Adjust your offset to adjust the wet/dry and “feedback” in your loop – the lower the voltage, the more of the recorded audio will be removed on each pass; at 0V it just stacks everything.
9. If you want to, patch a gate into THIS to punch in and out.

Jam with that a while.

Something else to try:
10. (Optional) remove or silence your input.
11. Hit PLAY to go into Nav mode.
12. Control the tape speed and direction with your offset in THAT.

And something else (it’s a sampler!)
13. Hold LOOP+RECORD to go into Cue mode.
14. Hold down PLAY to play back your loop. When you let go, it stops. When you hit it again, it resets and plays from the start of your loop.
15. You can shorten the loop by using PLAY or UP/DOWN to position the tape, and then hitting REC to add a new cue point. Try shortening it so it’s just one note that can loop smoothly.
16. (optional) You can navigate to other cue points with LOOP+UP or LOOP+DOWN. Note that if you’re in the midst of a loop (you just hit PLAY to preview it), the first LOOP+DOWN goes to the beginning of the loop, and the second LOOP+DOWN goes to the previous loop if there is one.
17. Plug a gate into THIS and a pitch CV into THAT. It’s a sampler!

(Step 17 may be tricky if your gate has any offset at all when low… detection can be a bit weird. It’s also supposed to play the loop as a one-shot with a trigger but I haven’t been able to consistently make that work.)

[Aetherpulse]

Awesome! Maybe now I’ll be able to figure cue mode out

[bc3]

thank you! this helped greatly and i am able to record as well as overdub and overwrite now. still some other weirdness going on that makes me have to reboot after some time. could be a bug or user error but happy to be getting sounds out of now

[Oneven]

Not sure why, but I’ve been running into issues while trying to loop

In live mode: I press down to place a cue, but when I hit up it doesn’t loop. Reboots work, but it is a bit of a pain to constantly reboot while trying to work on a patch. Lost my sequence in O&C because I forgot to save.

[ghost]

@Oneven Definitely getting similar behaviour on mine.

When it’s all working it’s great but occasionally it behaves like you’ve described and only a reboot fixes it.

[trickyflemming]

My w// shipped. Looking forward to joining the party next week!

[kieselguhrkid]

After not having much chance to turn on the rack this week (grinding out a hep-th paper appearing on Monday), I sat down for an hour or so and patched up a fun example of some noise inspired application of W/:

I had Cold Mac controlling This from the Or out using Maths EOR and EOC and THAT from the Right out with no input and CH1 of Maths controlling Survey. Maths CH1 was also controlling Mangrove’s AIR. Mangrove’s Formant out went into Three Sisters All input and the Square out went in to FM with a negative bias. Throughout I played with kicking W/ out of Live and into Nav while recording was engaged or pitching Live down as much as possible to get some wild pitched up playback.

The end result brought to mind elements from Black Dice tracks like “Treetops” or “Night Flight”. Enjoy.

https://soundcloud.com/brandon-robinson-205/wcreature-comfort

[Galapagoose]

Apologies to those that haven’t yet received their modules. We did not anticipate anything like this level of support. Your patience is not assumed yet greatly appreciated. We got a large batch of modules out the door today, and hoping to complete our direct orders this coming monday.

In the meantime, here’s the initial W/ Type implementation details, with a requisite custom-teletype firmware. I’ll be sending a PR for that code over the weekend.