#1033

This happens to me all the time! Though it’s still so unclear to me what is user error and what is a bug.

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#1034

Anyone know when they might be re-stocked at Control? I’m up here and was curious to at least take a look…it’d give me an excuse to finally visit the storefront. May go anyway, but I’m worried I’ll leave with 20+ Creel Pone releases… :slight_smile:

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#1035

I think it’s a bug, because a restart restores familiar behavior.
I could be wrong, but it seems to happen more often after I’ve been playing around in Cue mode and try to go back to Live to make loops. It’s odd though, I played for a couple hours without a hiccup earlier…

#1036

Really want to love this thing, it’s a beautiful design, but I’m way past the point of any major user error and I still can’t go more than 10 minutes with the module, even on its own, without it becoming unresponsive to commands, much less incorporate it into a larger patch. The module boots into a broken state more often than it does a usable one and I’m not getting any response from mannequins support, which I suppose is understandable given the size of their team. It’s a shame but I’m thinking of returning it, these errors seems too severe to be regular software glitches.

#1037

Give them a chance to fix all the issues. I think it will be like the rise of the phoenix.
Trust me. :slight_smile:

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#1039

I’m sure this is the case, but when the bugs are so prevalent you can’t even be sure it’s the software and not the hardware it’s hard to want to hang on to the thing while the return window lapses and leaves you with a admittedly gorgeous paperweight.

#1041

Based on my experience in HW/SW development I’m more or less sure that all theses issues can be fixed by SW. The HW itself of this module is not really rocket-science (sorry whimsical :slight_smile: )
Ok, the switch is the weak point of the module. :smile:

Cheers
Marcus

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#1042

Thanks that’s good to hear, I had an intuition this might be the case, but I have had next to no experience in that sphere.

I’ve been more than patient with the thing, but when the success rate for basic functions of anything can hover around 50% I’m going to become concerned, not trying to slander them or anything if that’s what you’re intimating. Certainly don’t want to scare off potential buyers. I don’t regret buying W/, I regret not buying 2 or 3. It’s a fantastic module.

#1043

We’re all in the same boat here. I get where you’re coming from, but I’m sure @Galapagoose is working hard on getting the bugs sorted.

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#1044

This seemed to work for me. I changed tapes first thing, and didn’t have a tape full of nasty glitches. I was able to use it pretty much as normal.

Now I wish I’d kept the “dirty” 2.2 Teletype version that has W/ Type instead of trying the 2.3 beta that doesn’t; ever since I got the idea of syncing my loop length to tempo in my head I’ve been wanting to do that :slight_smile:

I’m encountering something else I suspected, but wasn’t sure of – sometimes when overdubbing (and more rarely when overwriting), there’s a click EXACTLY on the loop point that isn’t coming from the audio signal.

If I patch a dummy cable into IN, start with a silent loop and just let it overdub a while, I get a gradually building noise floor with a sort of rapid clicky overlay – whether that’s from my PSU or if it’s emulated tape noise, or a combination, I’m not sure. But I get a definite click every time the loop resets too.

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Often the click is pretty prominent on just one or two dubs, even when recording material at a more normal level rather than just a noise floor.

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#1045

Woohoo! My w/ has finally arrived. I haven’t gotten too deep into it yet, but I’m already in love with it.

Thanks a ton to @Galapagoose, @izzy and the rest of the Mannequins crew for working so hard on this release. I can’t wait to see what’s in store for this incredible and imaginative module.

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#1046

And it gets loud and crazy after a while. Had this problem repeatedly yesterday to the extent that it was happening more often than not. I know these issues have been discussed above, but thought I’d report that in my case I have the following bugs (I have one W/):

  • Stuck in a (short) loop and no action aside from a restart fixes it. Sometimes this doesn’t work straight away

  • IN sometimes doesn’t “hear” the audio and records a loop noise and rising noise floor

I’ve checked these as best I can to try to exclude user error. I’m happy to persist to learn this thing as its the most exciting module for I’ve got and suits my style but I worry the power cycling could harm other modules and the case.

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#1047

heres a new one. i think i want another one :slight_smile:

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#1048

Very cool, thanks for posting.

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#1049

cross-post, for the curious! I’ve found that 15 minutes into a W// session with a single voice is the sweet spot for me. after rolling through small sequences of source material, it’s super fun to patch each W/ to the other through their own filters, record at different speeds, and then play back at 1x.

have had some jam-ups setting loop points or trying to edit old ones, but have also found enough joy in keeping to one set loop and overdubbing/overwriting. these things are magic. dang.

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#1050

I kept waiting for Teenage Wasteland to start … :slight_smile: Well done!

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#1051

A few days in, and I have encountered some of the same stuff that’s been mentioned upthread:

  1. Crashes on (attempting to) change tapes.
    a. One tape appeared to already be full of noise I couldn’t record over (?)

  2. Material I didn’t record suddenly blaring out after I hit play and then left the room (woooo was it loud…sent me running back in!)

  3. Occasionally getting stuck in a short loop that i may or may not have user-errored my way into

Still loving it. Having a little difficulty moving/deleting cues, but have gotten both to work on occasion.

While I am still in a somewhat confused state, decided to go full force with it and ordered a teletype :rofl:… guess I know how I’ll be spending the summer!

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#1052

I have no idea what I’m doing.

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#1053

My probs with w/ seem to have gotten a lot worse the more material I have on the ‘tape’.

Rebooting starts me at the begining of the tape, and just forwarding and/or jumping cues though 30+ mins to a clean spot seems to be enough to bug it out. I record some audio, but afterwards, I can’t play it back or hear anything from the tape most of the time.

Currently I just don’t (can’t) use it. Since I was able to use it for quite a while and record some super cool stuff, i’m reasonably confident its not user error, but its hard to tell.

Waiting patiently, but eager to get back at it! — just wanted to update my status here. :slight_smile:

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#1054

Yeah, I’m in the same boat, and I’m noticing similar behavior now that I’ve gotten a couple of hours worth of recordings on a single tape. Haven’t tried switching to another tape yet, fwiw.

Much as I love this thing, it’s kinda been put on hold over the last week. Looking forward to getting back to it soon, though!

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