#1709

I’m not sure what help card you mean, but I’ve found this to be amazing http://withw.rustle.works/ (reposted from July).

+1 to all the ideas with using more than one of these with Teletype, it’d be amazing. And the issues with the SD card seem to be not so bad, if you look at it in the same way as you’d look at an actual reel of tape. A trade off for having access to 90 minutes.

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#1710

my W/ is under the bed in the “office” so i can’t check exactly - this is the note I received from WR HQ about cards:

“If you’re going to replace the card yourself, we recommend a Class 10 card, and either 4GB or 8GB (note 8GB will not extend your tape time currently). 4GB cards tend to have faster access times. In particular we discourage using the more modern ‘Ultra’ or ‘Extreme’ speed cards- They sound like they’d be great, but W/ uses the SD card in a very non-traditonal way meaning these cards actually perform far worse than the older ones, and you’ll likely have audio dropouts in your recorded files.”

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#1711

just as a follow up to the card stuff - the card I have from WR HQ is unbranded, class 10, 4gb.

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#1712

I have two W/ that I use daily. There’s is nearly never an issue. I keep them in looper mode with triggers permanently connected from Pam’s. They just works so well as a looper that you can manually play the pitch shifts. Love them!
The main issue I come across is if I don’t engage them on start up or send them a trigger then they can become unresponsive, mainly one of them. A super rare issue is sometime one may not be responsive on startup but then I usually just turn my system off and back on. My using routine is to turn on the system, engage the W/‘s then hit PNW. That way I almost never have an issue.

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#1713

How do you do this with a sequencer? Is it basically just creating a start/stop point that you can just choose to record in to?

#1714

With firmware 1.2.1 you can assign the THIS and THAT to different functions so I have dub - THAT and sample - THIS set. This lets you set the feedback with a voltage and send a trigger to reset the cue. That way you get synced delays and loops depending on your trigger tempo. While it’s playing you manually hold down play and flip the toggle switch up and down for pitch changes. With a long loop you can capture these pitch changes. If you want to just change the pitch of a loop without recording new audio or you like the pitch changes you made you can keep it as a loop by disengaging record. I’m hoping @Galapagoose will add more W/ type functions so I can use crow to actually do the pitch changes via CV. Mainly just x0.5, x1, x2 and x4 as well as the negative options. Would be cool to have a script that lets you do that as well as having loop points and cv modulation related to W/ coming out of crow.

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#1715

Been wanting to play with reassigning THIS and THAT. It can be a bit heady to wrap the head around. I also want to do a better job of integrating my teletype scripts with it. Just haven’t gotten around to it. Plus I sent mine in to have a faulty card slot fixed. But once it’s back, I’ll try this out.

One thing I thought would work well is when making quantized music, creating a beat synced start/stop or loop points for different lengths and then having clock Pulses set the loop back to start point. This way, I could record something in to the loop at a quantized rate, pitch it however I want and at specified beat increments know that it’ll start from the top, returning it to proper beat.

Lots of cool potential tools to build!

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#1716

Today I have spent all afternoon experimenting with W/ feedback loops :smiley:

Here is a very simple patch - W/'s setup as @cosmicsoundexplorer explains above, mult outputs to inputs, patch a bipolar offset to THAT inputs, set a short loop, hit record, and start fiddling!

Here the outputs were tangled through ColdMac before being sent to the inputs, which made things a bit more interesting maybe -

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#1717

Hey, my experience is exactly the same as you.
I have got two w/, one of them is connect ii (i2c) teletype. Like what you said, if I neglected it for a certain times it became freeze.

#1718

Picked up a w/ in the end. I love this thing! Working on the muscle memory, but just doing little delay looper tricks is probably all I want to do with this thing. Have been practicing a kind of ambient mix of tunes set and it’s really nice to have w/ on a send channel, just mashing loops and snippets of the mix.

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#1719

This is just how I use it and pretty much is all I’ve done with it and I still love it. Plus there’s not much to remember using it like that

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#1721

I could be having a brain freeze but has anyone found how to place a cue using CV? I sort of know it’s not meant to be used in perfect sync but still wish i could do that.

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#1722

Not possible even in v1.2 as far as I can see.

#1723

Yeah I don’t think that is possible right now. The easiest way I’ve found to sync w/ is adding cues manually and using CV to trigger and navigate between them. THIS in sample mode and THAT in signal has been helpful.

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#1724

Hello - test-driving a w/ this week (and will likely buy it).

I just accidentally overdubbed an LFO plugged into THAT into a loop and…i think the recorded LFO is now modulating the volume of the loop!!! :scream: That is so cool.

I was originally trying to modulate the pitch of the loop (I thought that’s what the THAT input did? I’m still rather confused after looping Sam Wolk’s video and re-reading rustleworks’ online chart all day).

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#1725

sounds like you were in regular live mode (called “dub” on the rustleworks document) when you wanted to be in cue mode or “sample” live mode :slight_smile:

edit: maybe you were just excited and not looking for an answer, sorry :stuck_out_tongue: been rereading the docs myself today lol

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#1726

From Galapagoose in another thread discussing content for his MAPS streams:

I’m going to hold off on W/. There is a big update coming for it & it needs a whole episode dedicated to it (but it’s not quite ready).

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#1727

That is extremely exciting to hear.

#1728

yes, it was mentioned in a stream (although after recording had been stopped) that it will involve more ii controls : )

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#1729

Oh lawd, further i2c tools for w/ will be amazing. I’m assuming it will be mostly crow focused, but I hope it opens the door to further teletype ops as well. Expanded w/ i2c could certainly expand my usage of the Teletype as the centerpiece of my effects modulation. As well, I’m excited to see how this could effect the crow->w/ as I’m wondering ways in which sequencers such as Quence or Awake could function in conjunction with w/, especially with simultaneous JF output. The inclusion of w/ i2c could bring the family of mannequins modules together as a very impressive glue.