#14

To the left of the power socket?

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#15

I’m not sure, but I’m done with workarounds. I want something spec’d correctly or I just don’t have time for it anymore.

It’s not big deal. There are a million other PC options out there.

DANTE is the future for networked audio I think, and I’ve also been giving serious consideration to moving at least some of my audio work from Logic to something like Sequoia or Samplitude, and those only run on Windows.

I could use Bootcamp I suppose though.

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#16

Hmm. Does look it.

Maybe what I found is incorrect.

#17

There’s a Gigabit Ethernet port according to Microsoft’s tech specs page.

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#18

Macbook Pros don’t have ethernet ports either. Desktop Mac Pros are overpriced and underspec’d these days. I guess iMacs still have ethernet ports.

USB 2.0 is rated for 480mbps throughput. USB 3.0 is rated for 5gbps throughput.

I guess it’s all moot anyway :slight_smile:

#19

Yep. My mistake. The search result I got was relative to Surface Pro, not Studio. I was sloppy.

Apologies.

Back in the running with this!

#20

How is that (ie, Bitwig on touch screen)?

I’ve occasionally wondered about migrating from Ableton to Bitwig for touch support, but don’t have a clear sense of whether than would be transformative for what I do (which is mostly in arrangement view) or just… interesting.

I suspect Ableton would say that their touch interface is, in fact, Push2! But Push is not quite as compelling, I find, if you’re mostly working with a timeline.

#21

I would categorize it more towards the “interesting” end of the scale than “transformative”. Partially because I don’t like the piano roll interaction design in touch mode. Helio workstation (free and cross-platform!) is far better for piano roll editing. But Bitwig touch mode is nice for device knobs.

#22

After today’s MacBook announcement, I’m looking at the Surface Pro 4. Anyone able to weigh in on experience with it?

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#23

This looks useful: http://surfaceproaudio.com

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#24

Totally off-top, but I think in the long term AVB will win :slight_smile:

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#25

Maybe.

Interested.

Tell me more.

Off-off-topic: I had one frightening realization about the potential limits of Dante yesterday, and that is that if computers do for some reason stop being issued with physical Ethernet ports, and don’t have a reliable workaround/converter to get from whatever protocol IS installed to-ethernet, and don’t have a PCI slot or some other reliable expansion slot for an Ethernet card, then you’re screwed with Dante. Apple has been showing troubling, well-documented signs of forgetting all about its pro users.

Thing is, I know that at least there is serious development going on in the background right now with some pioneering pro audio companies, going all-in with Dante–trying to steer it out of the limited installation segment of recording and in to full-featured high end recording–so they think it’s the future. I’ve been told that directly by at least one mic pre guru.

#26

AVB has had pretty slow uptake but recently larger vendors like Cisco have started adding support. Dante definitely has a big head start but one major disadvantage is that it requires a license fee whereas AVB is an open standard. As it starts to gain more momentum it will be easier for other vendors to add support, and especially smaller ones. I can imagine in the future even individual synths and audio processors having native AVB support.

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#27

interesting but not cheap.

#28

Cheaper than a Cintiq+computer.

Interesting that we’re talking about the new Microsoft computer, and not the new Macbook Pro.

I’m a little sad about it, honestly. It feels like Apple is forgetting about us.

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#29

I am using a late 2013 MacBook Pro. Don’t like how Apple is drifting away from their old Zen-like focus.

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#30

It’s really quite unfortunate, every time Apple has a chance to entice me into upgrading from my 2011 MBP. I end up happier that I have my 2011 MBP.

If you use a MBP for live performance (and use any peripherals) it’s now officially impossible to replace it without purchasing dongles. Or getting a MBook Air, which seems to be on the chopping block.

As popular as Eurorack is, I don’t think most people like that ‘spaghetti wire look’ for their laptops.

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#31

I hear you, but all that bothers me a lot less than the apparent lack of vision for the future. Peter Kirn summed it up nicely.

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#32

very weird design decisions. the new macbookpro only has thunderbolt ports. insane.

#33

Yeah, I think he did a good job of setting up the consequences and concerns.

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