MIDI controller routing from one Norn to the other (OhmRGB)

PeteDorky · 2022-03-26T19:15:39.691Z

Hey!

Sorry...

Sorry for asking first – I’m 100% sure this is all answered in this forum. But I’m quite overwhelmed already. So I beg your pardon.

What are my options for a stable routing of a few MIDI CCs / Notes from one Norns to another.

I have an OhmRGB which has lots of knobs and buttons with an A / B section kinda which would be fantastic to control two Norns.

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I guess OSC would also be an option? Maybe there are already Mods for this?

How would you solve that? Thanks for your input!

okyeron · 2022-03-26T19:45:52.847Z

The OhmRGB can only interface over USBMIDI with one of the norns.

But… You could use the DIN MIDI out from the OhmRGB thru a USBMIDI adapter ($10-15) to the second norns.

At that point you’d just need to figure out your mapping so that MIDI events for one device are only mapped to the norns you want (keep in mind in this case all the MIDI would be sending to both)

PeteDorky · 2022-03-26T19:47:35.607Z

I hear you – but you know how clunky those MIDI to USB cables are. I was hoping to use a network protocol for less setup time and cluttered cables (I hate cables!).

Of course this is my workaround right now that works out of the box.

okyeron · 2022-03-26T19:50:00.885Z

Option 2 - use a host to host adapter between the 2 norns, and forward the MIDI you want along to the second.

(would require a bit more scripting on the first norns or using passthrough - which might be a mod now?)

PeteDorky · 2022-03-26T19:56:32.778Z

I see… thanks for ideas!

github.com/monome/norns

PARAMETERS: mapping enhancement springboards

opened 05:07PM - 24 Nov 20 UTC

dndrks

enhancement

I've been thinking a lot about how the mapping function works on PARAMETERS, so …I just wanted to collect some reflection here in case it's helpful. if this feels like noise, just lmk. ### multi-map - _current_: re-mapping a control to another parameter removes it from its prior definitions - _proposed_: map many parameters to a single control - _challenges_: provide user a way to quickly un-link the control from all mappings ### translate delta changes for foot pedals and other devices which send fixed-extremes - _current_: any device which sends 0 and 127 as the only two CC's cannot call anything besides a parameter's extremes - _proposed_: add a "delta" mode which allows a user to define what fixed CC value their device is sending and translate that to a delta message for the parameter <s>### range ([see this thread](https://llllllll.co/t/norns-param-map-screen/32352))</s> <s>- _current_: a mapped control will access the full range of the parameter</s> <s>- _proposed_: allow the user to refine the range of the parameter, so that (for example) a slider can focus on a subset of the parameter's values. could lead to really expressive control when combined with multi-map.</s> ### arc - _current_: an arc cannot control parameters unless the loaded script explicitly supports it or if the arcify library is used - _proposed_: unless a script defines arc interaction, arc could default to a mapping mode that allows the first three encoders to be mapped to any parameter. the fourth encoder could switch between multiple banks, so an arc could control up to 12 parameters across 4 banks (for example) ### crow - same as arc, but for crow. relies on multi-map. ### midi + OSC callback (#1696) <s>- _current_: if a user maps a controller that has LED feedback (thinking specifically of Midi Fighter Twister or OP-Z), LEDs do not display the loaded state. user has to turn the encoder all the way to the extreme in order to align the values. if a script sets params values directly, this decouples things pretty quickly.</s> <s>- _proposed_: provide a method to report relative parameter values as a "midi echo" back to the transmitting device on a specified channel, with a specified type (CC, note on, etc), mapped 0-127. this would also open up a potentially dumb but fun-sounding creative opportunity to map a parameter's changes to MIDI notes lol</s> <s>- _challenges_: this might be too niche, but could be a nice MIDI QOL improvement</s>

for future reference regarding OSC feedback:

Zack implemented a small OSC feedback mod that allows forwarding all incoming OSC events.
i've implemented the osc-cast mod that sends an OSC messages for all param changes. it's more suitable for bidirectional param editing.
those mods might be sufficient for the time being. midi feedback could be implemented in a similar fashion.

What about this? Looks quite promising as well, eh? @dani_derks You are doing the main implementation, right?

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i’m happy to add MIDI note mapping to this norns system feature request PARAMETERS: mapping enhancement springboards · Issue #1248 · monome/norns · GitHub

Maybe OSC as input would be awesome

nattog · 2022-03-26T20:02:01.620Z

okyeron:

would require a bit more scripting on the first norns or using passthrough - which might be a mod now?)

indeed i have made it a mod!

PeteDorky · 2022-03-26T20:03:51.249Z

YES!! Haha, fantastic! Trying now!