#17

dunno if you have anything to add @x2mirko but I just found this so thought I’d drop it

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=192156&sid=a90b36cbd870bfa609a76b744310ccfb

avoided picking up one of these for a while cause resolution n stuff compared to arc. are the knobs smooth like the arc aswell ?

#18

I’ve had a positive experience using the twister with both the Norns and the Octatrack. I have a bank for each at the moment. For the Octatrack you have to customise the CCs using the midifighter utility as OT doesn’t have a learn function. For Norns you just do the parameter learn.

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#19

Not close to the resolution of the Arc but far more resolution than any other midi controller’s encoder I’ve used (and I’ve used and discarded so many it’s painful). If memory serves it’s over 100 steps per turn though not quite 128. Great in relative mode. I have three of them. For comparison it’s about 4x the resolution of the encoders on the fader fox UC4 and even more compared to the Novation units. No acceleration for relative mode though.

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#20

great info - what I’m coming from for the most part is the 128 from midi, so honestly ~100 is pretty decent. in my experience --> if you can control the response curve of a knob in software to yr taste that can reconcile a lot of the knob’s shortcomings. prob going to pick one of these up eventually

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#21

Not much to add. The encoders are pretty smooth. They certainly don’t have as many steps per turn as the arc, but I never found it to be an issue. It’s not going to feel like an arc and you don’t have as much control over the leds for visual feedback (they just react to midi cc), but it’s a great controller for the price.

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#22

There’s a pretty nice sale on these here. $170 out the door with the promo code. My Norns is getting a lot knobbier!

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#23

Thanks all for thread, have now picked one up. Great piece of kit.

#24

Missed the $170 deal by a couple hours and wasn’t certain if this was what I need.
Looks like a fantastic piece of kit that is highly customizable.
Next time it goes on sale, I’ll be ready.

#25

Maybe this deserves its own thread, but I’d love to hear you talk more about making all your devices talk OSC. Does this involve translating MIDI into and out of OSC for things that don’t already speak it? Do you do this with, e.g. an Ableton softsynth?

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#26

This could be interesting/great if it makes it into production.

https://www.beatboxinstruments.com

#27

Could I ask how you’ve set it up to work with the Octatrack? Is it able to read values from the Octa (There’s this Send all Audio CC’s command in the Octa) or does it work closer to how a pot would work, introducing value jumps when you, say, change patterns? Very interested in the unit… Thanks.

#28

I have been using it more like a pot. I’ll see if I can get the two way communication going now actually.

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#29

Ok two way comms works a treat. I just had to make sure in my midi routing (in my case using an iconnectmidi4+) had both devices sending to each other as destinations. However I don’t see the Octatrack sending cc’s when the values change by parameter locks or pattern changes. Only when adjusting the knob on the Octatrack.

I used this CC reference:

The only thing that is a bit of a bummer imo is that each track has to be on it’s own channel. So you can quickly eat up all your available channels.

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#30

can the push function be used to enter notes like a midi keyboard?

#31

The encoder push? Sure you can set it to most any midi messages. Not sure it would be very ergonomic for notes, they’re quite firm to push.

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#32

Sorry to pull this out of the graveyard but I’m curious if the bonus sequencer mode in the Twister can be used with the Norns. It seems like the answer might be “maybe” as long as the Norns script is able to be the MIDI clock master but I’m curious. Looking to get one either way but would be double excited if I could use it as a step sequencer on occasion.

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#33

You could also build a norns sequencer using the twister :slight_smile:

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#34

Oof ok that sounds like fun. I can see my Rene sweating from here. @kingmetal I’m pretty sure a norns script could interact with the midifighter sequencer but as @electret said, (and I’ll extrapolate), one could make something that extends the original idea of the midifighter sequencer with a similar amount of effort.

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#36

I’m not totally sure I catch your meaning - are we talking about writing new firmware for the Midifighter in order to make the sequencer more flexible / work differently or are we talking about a script that was Midifighter-aware and was built around the strengths of the Midifighter sequencer implementation?

I suspect you mean the latter, which is a very cool idea. I lack the skill at this time to do something like that but being trapped indoors for the foreseeable future and having a light background in python, who knows!

I was able to snag a b-stock Twister from the nice people at DJ Tech Tools last night, so in a few days I’ll be able to play with the hardware directly and will report back.

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