Thanks all for thread, have now picked one up. Great piece of kit.

Missed the $170 deal by a couple hours and wasn’t certain if this was what I need.
Looks like a fantastic piece of kit that is highly customizable.
Next time it goes on sale, I’ll be ready.

Maybe this deserves its own thread, but I’d love to hear you talk more about making all your devices talk OSC. Does this involve translating MIDI into and out of OSC for things that don’t already speak it? Do you do this with, e.g. an Ableton softsynth?

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This could be interesting/great if it makes it into production.

https://www.beatboxinstruments.com

Could I ask how you’ve set it up to work with the Octatrack? Is it able to read values from the Octa (There’s this Send all Audio CC’s command in the Octa) or does it work closer to how a pot would work, introducing value jumps when you, say, change patterns? Very interested in the unit… Thanks.

I have been using it more like a pot. I’ll see if I can get the two way communication going now actually.

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Ok two way comms works a treat. I just had to make sure in my midi routing (in my case using an iconnectmidi4+) had both devices sending to each other as destinations. However I don’t see the Octatrack sending cc’s when the values change by parameter locks or pattern changes. Only when adjusting the knob on the Octatrack.

I used this CC reference:

The only thing that is a bit of a bummer imo is that each track has to be on it’s own channel. So you can quickly eat up all your available channels.

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can the push function be used to enter notes like a midi keyboard?

The encoder push? Sure you can set it to most any midi messages. Not sure it would be very ergonomic for notes, they’re quite firm to push.

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Sorry to pull this out of the graveyard but I’m curious if the bonus sequencer mode in the Twister can be used with the Norns. It seems like the answer might be “maybe” as long as the Norns script is able to be the MIDI clock master but I’m curious. Looking to get one either way but would be double excited if I could use it as a step sequencer on occasion.

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You could also build a norns sequencer using the twister :slight_smile:

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Oof ok that sounds like fun. I can see my Rene sweating from here. @kingmetal I’m pretty sure a norns script could interact with the midifighter sequencer but as @electret said, (and I’ll extrapolate), one could make something that extends the original idea of the midifighter sequencer with a similar amount of effort.

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I’m not totally sure I catch your meaning - are we talking about writing new firmware for the Midifighter in order to make the sequencer more flexible / work differently or are we talking about a script that was Midifighter-aware and was built around the strengths of the Midifighter sequencer implementation?

I suspect you mean the latter, which is a very cool idea. I lack the skill at this time to do something like that but being trapped indoors for the foreseeable future and having a light background in python, who knows!

I was able to snag a b-stock Twister from the nice people at DJ Tech Tools last night, so in a few days I’ll be able to play with the hardware directly and will report back.

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ohhh interested in this as I have a twister

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This code was used for the video above, but will not work with norns 2.0. It could be updated to the latest version with a little work.

Is this true of the newer EC4 as well? Anyone have any experience? It’s between that and the twister for me…

Faderfox sez “36 pulses per revolution” so pretty much the same. Can’t remember what I measured the MFT to be but I know it was close to a full 7-bit midi sweet per turn (still pretty low res! but good for a midi controller. definitely ARC resolution, alas :frowning:

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I can’t find any more detailed specs at the moment, but Twister has a hi-res mode:

  • Encoder Fine Adjust: In this mode, hold down or press a knob, and it becomes high-resolution . This allows you to control a tiny range of values with bigger movements. It’s ideal for precise adjustments to controls like EQ, tempo, resonance, etc.

Edit — Apparently still 7bit. More an adjustment to how the turn of a knob works than actual data transmission.

Should add: there is something the encoders on the faderfox units have that is lacking on the Twister- support for relative mode acceleration. If you are using them to control something like an automation parameter on a VST/AU with good smoothing algorithms (eg U-he Zebra/Bazille etc) you that acceleration in relative mode can get you BEYOND a full range in one turn without zipper noise. But it doesn’t increase precision or actual resolution. I don’t know why the MFT doesn’t have this since it’s built right into the specs for relative control - I hacked something together in Bidule once create switchable acceleration from the twister, unfortunately can’t find that project now…