Those look amazing, but not inexpensive is right! For that price I could buy 10 Mackie 1604’s and have the EQ removed and new cases built custom :slight_smile:

Just saw this

http://www.arrel-audio.com/product.php?page=ER-100

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I keep wishing they’d made it upside down so that the volume knobs were at the bottom and the jacks were at the top. I should see if grayscale would make a flipped panel.

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Is it acutally shipping?

No idea. They showed them at superbooth this year.

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Yeah, I looked at my case, looked at the module and thought the same thing… then I decided I didn’t need a big mixer module anyway

i have 8 channels going from modular to A&H mixwizard via nw2s::io, so don’t really need a mixer in modular, but it’s tempting for CV control and proximity. agreed it’s weird that most of similar modules also have jacks on the bottom, XAOC / Intellijel / ProModular all do, Koma Poltergeist has inputs on the bottom. FrapTools is close but having CV inputs intermixed with attenuators is not ideal when it’s fully patched. WMD mixer seems to be the only one with jacks to the left / on top.

yeah. I am just using the circuit abbey unify these days. it is the smallest stereo mixer w/ headphone outs that I could find. I don’t really need sends or CV over panning or anything so it’s fine for me.

I love the looks of the FrapTools mixer system but that is a lot of money and HP.

my modular stuff just goes into my handy old mackie 802 vlz3 which gives me more than enough channels + routing options to add extra stuff.

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Yeah, I did a little math on how much would it cost to replace my AH mixer with the Frap Tools equivalent of channels, and had to quickly abandon that idea!
They are beautiful looking modules though, even if a bit confusing at first blush…

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This looks promising:

http://artproaudio.com/mixers/product/tubemix/

I want to sort out the two auxes.

Auxi?

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Having owned a Frap Tools setup, it’s pretty amazing if you want a high quality mixer that has CV for everything. If you don’t need the CV control then it’s total overkill and an outboard mixer will do the job perfectly. That’s where I ended up as well.

Which A&H do you have? Now that I’m going outboard I’m having trouble choosing something that has enough channels, sends, and is portable (within reason).

Anyone know why mixer manufacturers reserve this form factor for dj mixers:

And mixers for other purposes are always the ever-lengthening, slanted slab console?

If I could just get the important parts from the Zed14:

with a few minor additions (pre/post aux buttons, headphone jack, master meters but no master faders) in that dj box format, with jacks on the back, I would be set. Six mono, four stereo channels, but in a form that only takes up roughly 12" x 12" of desk space.

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Sounds like you’re sort of looking for Richie Hawtin’s Model 1: https://playdifferently.org/

Ultimately the price tag / marketing is all a bit too much for me, but it does seem like a quality product.

https://www.schneidersladen.de/en/arrel-audio-er-100.html

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I’ve looked at the Model 1 a few times. It’s nice, but not what I’m hoping for, and I confess the price on 4-6 channel DJ mixers baffle me (the Model 1 costs $4400 in Canada, that’s more expensive than the 8-channel SSL X-Desk).

It both has way more stuff and not enough utility for me. I need more channels (at least 6 mono and 2 stereo), aux sends (at least 2, I don’t even need returns, as I route back to the stereo channels anyway), 1/4" inputs (ideally xlr combo jacks), and that’s it. No filters, EQs, saturation stages, or anything related to DJs (mix cues, rca jacks, phono preamps, x-faders). I’m resigned to that never being made, so I make do with what’s available.

I do find it strange that mixer form factors tend to be segregated to specific use cases. So many mixers on the market, new ones added all the time, so little experimentation.

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Another direction, if all you need is summing and monitoring.

http://www2.solidstatelogic.com/studio/mynx

My SSL X-Desk is the business, so I’m tempted by The Mynx.

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And in a similar vein:

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Nice! These look like pretty good value.

Not really minimal, but find myself strangely drawn to this really ugly Behringer mixer. It has a button that records all the incoming and mixed channels and drops the files in a folder on a USB stick.
From Christoph Remmery on FB:
“I have the Behringer XENYX UFX1204 : it records every seperate track directly on a USB-stick or USB-drive. No computer needed. I don’t know about soundquality compared to the usual hyped brands but it is fine for me. Also comes in a bigger version. When you are patching and knobbing, just hit ‘REC’ on the mixer and that’s is : every channel + sends + main mix will be in a new folder on the USB-device.”

http://m.music-group.com/Categories/Behringer/Mixers/Analog-Mixers/UFX1204/p/P0AB2

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I had the occasion to use it and it does exactly what it says and it does it well enough. Frankly apart from being behringer (which is a big downer) it’s a very convenient piece of kit.