Minimal mixers


#504

Anyone know why mixer manufacturers reserve this form factor for dj mixers:

And mixers for other purposes are always the ever-lengthening, slanted slab console?

If I could just get the important parts from the Zed14:

with a few minor additions (pre/post aux buttons, headphone jack, master meters but no master faders) in that dj box format, with jacks on the back, I would be set. Six mono, four stereo channels, but in a form that only takes up roughly 12" x 12" of desk space.


#505

Sounds like you’re sort of looking for Richie Hawtin’s Model 1: https://playdifferently.org/

Ultimately the price tag / marketing is all a bit too much for me, but it does seem like a quality product.


#506

https://www.schneidersladen.de/en/arrel-audio-er-100.html


#507

I’ve looked at the Model 1 a few times. It’s nice, but not what I’m hoping for, and I confess the price on 4-6 channel DJ mixers baffle me (the Model 1 costs $4400 in Canada, that’s more expensive than the 8-channel SSL X-Desk).

It both has way more stuff and not enough utility for me. I need more channels (at least 6 mono and 2 stereo), aux sends (at least 2, I don’t even need returns, as I route back to the stereo channels anyway), 1/4" inputs (ideally xlr combo jacks), and that’s it. No filters, EQs, saturation stages, or anything related to DJs (mix cues, rca jacks, phono preamps, x-faders). I’m resigned to that never being made, so I make do with what’s available.

I do find it strange that mixer form factors tend to be segregated to specific use cases. So many mixers on the market, new ones added all the time, so little experimentation.


#508

Another direction, if all you need is summing and monitoring.

http://www2.solidstatelogic.com/studio/mynx

My SSL X-Desk is the business, so I’m tempted by The Mynx.


#509

And in a similar vein:

http://vintagemaker.net/littleone.html


#511

Nice! These look like pretty good value.


#512

Not really minimal, but find myself strangely drawn to this really ugly Behringer mixer. It has a button that records all the incoming and mixed channels and drops the files in a folder on a USB stick.
From Christoph Remmery on FB:
“I have the Behringer XENYX UFX1204 : it records every seperate track directly on a USB-stick or USB-drive. No computer needed. I don’t know about soundquality compared to the usual hyped brands but it is fine for me. Also comes in a bigger version. When you are patching and knobbing, just hit ‘REC’ on the mixer and that’s is : every channel + sends + main mix will be in a new folder on the USB-device.”

http://m.music-group.com/Categories/Behringer/Mixers/Analog-Mixers/UFX1204/p/P0AB2


#513

I had the occasion to use it and it does exactly what it says and it does it well enough. Frankly apart from being behringer (which is a big downer) it’s a very convenient piece of kit.


#514

This is a step in an interesting direction. Now if they would make a smaller one…


#515

Same thing, twice smaller, less channels, and that’s a hard thing to resist. As is, it’s not really the best for solo artists. Also I find the design terrible (as pretty much always with zoom). Hopefuly as Peter puts it, this will become a category.


#516

Zoom mixer/interface/recorders seem super smart. I want a member of this product category that supports multi-channel (quadrophonic, surround, and beyond) audio.


#517

Interesting! That feature is pretty appealing


#518

This little corner of the Behringer is a masterclass in lean interface design vs the Zoom…
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#519

Came across a guy on reddit who makes custom active matrix mixers. He’s based in Berlin and quoted me 300 eur incl UK shipping for a 4x4 with killswitches, not a bad price for something custom and metal with nice design. He has a flickr and a youtube channel. It’s not a priority purchase for me right now but I figure someone in this thread might potentially be interested!

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#520

More than a masterclass in interface design I think this is a great example of knowing what is important. What I mean is, trying to make something be a thing that it is not usually just ends up creating frustration in the user. The Beringer mixer does not try to make the mixer be a DAW and instead focuses on just doing one thing: recording. Once you have that figured out the rest is a natural consequence, what more do you need to record than a big red button?


#521

Love his mains-powered giant matrix mixers!


#522

I know it isn’t a recorder, but the KMI k-mix is a mixer/interface that does multi-channel. No experience with it (yet) though. I feel like a shill because I keep mentioning it to people, but it’s only because I’m super interested in checking one out for myself. :slight_smile:


#523

It does seem to come up repeatedly in these discussions. I didn’t really like my Quneo when I had one, and that’s coloring my perception of KMI products. But maybe k-mix doesn’t suffer from the same issues.


#524

Yeah, I’m kind of on the same page. I’ve liked the KMI stuff I’ve used, but I’ve never loved it. I just feel like I have somewhat less need of built-in recording since with my current set-up I’m pretty bound to my laptop, so I can always just record into my DAW with my interface. For me the KMI (or other mixer/interfaces) are more interesting just as they could replace my current rack-mount interface AND get me more tactile, dedicated physical controls. Typically I just use my Push 2 for those things now, but it’s less direct/immediate since the knobs are modal.