Minimal mixers


#525

My Focusrite Scarlett has been giving me problems (or is it the Mac’s USB subsystem? Wish I could tell), and it doesn’t have enough outs. So now I’m thinking about k-mix or MOTU Ultralite AVB (which has a browser-based mixing UI). I wish it were easier to “trial” such things.


#526

Swapped a Scarlett for a Ultralite 4, very happy.


#527

Yeah, I’m using a Scarlett also, but it’s an 18i20, so I’m pretty good for ins/outs. Haven’t had any issues with it. knock on wood

I think the trial version involves buying it from someplace with a good return policy like Guitar Center or Amazon. :slight_smile:


#528

Not really a mixer as such, but I just picked up one of these
https://www.jdslabs.com/products/177/ol-switcher/

from JDS Labs, a hifi company I hadn’t heard of before that has a nice minimal aesthetic to their products and seemingly a good “reality-based” ethic. (I’m not affiliated.) I’m using it to switch between a turntable and the phones at home. It could just as easily switch / attenuate a couple of things in a live setup.


#529

That Zoom mixer is actually quite intriguing as it has enough channels to be used in my little studio. The lack of AUX sends was a bit offputting at first, but I reached out to Zoom to check if the 5 headphone outs could be used as sends, and their answer was:

[…] Each headphone output has an individually adjustable mix, so you could use them as aux sends. […]

This could work really well with my incoming 5x5 matrix mixer.


#530

Though headphone outputs often have a different impedance and in my experience sometimes more problems with noise floor.


#531

fair point. i’ll probably wait and see what the feedback is once this mixer is actually out and people start using it.


#532

Yeah, that would me my worry too. If there is a way to bypass the headphone amp circuit it could be great mixer though.


#533

battery operated, 4 x 2 with direct outs as well, lundahl transformers, built like a tank, can be interfaced to other sd 442s or other models, loud / good sounding 1/4 headphone out and dozens of other excellent features … i’ll probably pass on this one, but looks new for $750 shipped … i have links for power leads and minixlr to trs 1/4 for direct prefader outs and for xlr to 1/4 ts (wired to be balanced still) … i use it for live performance with modular and tabletops and for recording. i love the rotary faders and the led meters … pretty much unbeatable, quiet operation anywhere:

Sound Design 442 Ebay $750


#534

What’s the general opinion on the Mackie vlz mixers here? I would really like to offload some of the mixing work I’m wasting vca’s on at the moment and simplify sending to Octatrack. I’m curious about the EQ’s too, I feel like it would just make me angry looking at all the space taken up by the EQ section in those mixers if they’re garbage.


#535

A couple months ago I took a chance on a makie 1202-vlz that was missing the power cord and filthy. It was $20 so worth the risk. After a good disassembly and cleaning I am really happy I did. It is not small but I don’t mind it’s footprint. I probably won’t take it to gigs if I can avoid it though. I have smaller mixers I like to use when going out.

I don’t mind the EQ but I know I don’t have the best ears. Others may feel more strongly about that.

It’s built sturdy and sounds good and gives me more options than I need. Nice stuff.


#536

i picked up a used (mint) 802-vlz4 a couple years ago. though it’s secondhand, i have no complaints, aside from wishing it had a stereo send, not just a stereo return. had i known i would run out of channels so quickly once everything in my studio was plugged in, i’d have gone for the 1202 or 1402. its EQs are musically useful; no issues. i split my time between using the mackie’s EQs and ableton’s more flexible EQs. i’d pick up a second 802-vlz4 if i ever get a modular live set together, as it has 3 pairs of stereo input channels in a very compact size, and it’s built super-sturdy.


#537

Awesome, thanks! These comments are really helpful.


#538

8 channels, 2 aux send/returns, panning and level (and mute!) per channel, all with the same dimensions as a Volca. That’s the in-the-works KVger Vixen, and I have a feeling it will be replacing my Mackie 1202VLZ4. If you’re at Knobcon, please take some pictures and ask some questions. Thanks!

PS: For reference, the Volca is apparently 7.61 x 4.54 x 1.81 inches (193 × 115 ×46 mm).


#539

Will be interesting to see the economics of doing a reasonably complicated Volca accessory without Korg’s scale & experience


#540

Short video from Knobcon here:

Blurry screenshot of rendering of final product here:


#541

Any compact, affordable mixers with direct outs per channel, a playback channel, and mains? I’m aware of the A&H but haven’t found much in the way of such. Don’t need a huge channel count - 8 will do - mainly just want to use this with my modular and synths. The goal is to remove my computer from spontaneous creativity or jamming but have everything ready to go if I feel like doing something more formal. Anyone doing this or have advice?

Ideal signal path would be: [Synth Output] > MIXER CH INPUT > (AUX) > MAIN OUTPUT > MONITORS

DIRECT CH OUTPUT > AUDIO INTERFACE > DAW > MIXER PLAYBACK INPUT > MONITORS

EDIT: So I was searching a little more and reminded that the SSL X-Desk is actually a good fit for this though hardly affordable. With its awesome switching/routing capabilities and lack of EQ, its kinda minimal as well.


#542

I think this is pretty much the mixer I keep imagining every time I see this thread’s subject line bubble up on lines.


#543

that actually seems to be pretty cool! Not sure about blue plexy with white (no fills I guess) laser-etched labels will be neither good looking nor very readable but it sure seems to have quite a bit of features and the form factor seems good.


#544

Me, too. Only thing top of my list it’s missing is solo, and only thing it has I don’t really need is panning.