#1062

My original plan was to control Ableton as I’ve largely moved back to mixing in the box with an expanded audio interface. At the moment though its too much fun just mapping faders to all sorts of eurorack things and evolving drones by hand.

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#1063

that sounds awesome. i’m on the opposite end trying to move out of the box haha

#1064

Here is another minimal mixer. Beautiful design.

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#1065

Holy shit, they make some beautiful boxes!

#1066

someone posted this above, but happy to see it again. i’m now thinking i want to mix inside the eurorack, but might just pick one of these up for how pretty it looks :slightly_smiling_face:

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#1067

Not minimal in cost, but very “minimal” in terms of footprint and having no functional excess during performance: ER-301 w/ 16n faderbank.

It is super easy to create a mixer control surface on the 16n with channels exactly tuned to your hardware needs. Limiters, EQ, feedback, preamps (only 4x gain though), etc. are available but the signal routing is up to you.

I played a collaborative improv set this week with Violet Housekid and had just enough faders for my Lyra, our two modulars, some ER-301 sample playback, and a cue output, plus send buses to use the Lyra and modular as effects (with feedback!). That cue output saved my ass by letting let me retune the synth “silently” to join in at the end of a Duet for Theremin and Lap Steel’s ongoing performance.

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#1068

Using this one for some years now

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#1069

I did pick up one of these Land mixers from seeing it here and can’t recommend it enough. Very simple, but that’s the appeal. I talked to the guy who designed it and he initially built it for himself for remote use, tired of wrestling a bunch of big boxes around. It seems perfectly suited for that application, although it also shines in my corner of my desktop set-up. I bought a pack of similarly colored patchbay cables, so everything’s coordinated, which is really kind of pleasing in an OCD way.

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#1070

very nice. i like the choice to consistently colour. i too am guilty of hyper detail / minimalist by nature. picking one up soon as i do have a small space for it. it would be a studio item for my purposes. i will let you know how i get on :slight_smile:

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#1071

Same here: I’m using it solely as a tool for the studio. I’ve run a number of stereo devices like a Cocoquantus and Lorre Mille Cowboy Callosum through the Lands mixer and the ability to pan sort of blunts the fact the mixer is mono. The low and high gain are excellent, too. Just a really well thought-out, simple device that’s aesthetically pleasing and has a great tactile feel. Also the people who make it are really nice, which is worth something, in my book.

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#1072

Can you explain this a bit? I thought the mixer is stereo.

#1073

Seems like it rather has two mono outs than stereo out. I guess you could use that in standard stereo fashion but it would be more fiddly to set up than with usual stereo output. Could be cool for two different mono signal processing paths which could be the intended use.

#1074

But aren’t the pan knobs able to move the sound from one output to the other? How is that any different than a stereo output, whatever that is? Unless the pan option is a switch, so hard L or hard R, then this is not mono, it is stereo. Panning is a stereo option. A stereo mixer has a lot of mono channels (panning), and might have some stereo channels (balance). This one seems to only have mono input channels, and two mono jacks for the LR output, but that doesn’t make it a non-stereo mixer.

Unless I’m missing something which might well be the case!

#1075

I’m no expert so I don’t know about the exact semantics, but the fact that those two outputs both have their own volume knob, rather than sharing a common volume, and that the pan knobs don’t seem to have hard centerpoint makes me differentiate it from stereo mixers. Of course you could use it like you would use a stereo mixer. Or you could use it in ways that would not be possible with stereo mixer. Product page also says “panning between two mono outputs”, I’d say that using the term panning is kind of confusing, I think ‘send’ would be more suitable to emphasise that it has two mono outputs, not a fixed stereo output.

EDIT: With a quick Google search it seems like stereo uses the same amplifier for both left and right output, while dual mono has separate amplifiers for those outputs. I guess that’s the case with Land mixer too as it has separate volume controls per output, as I mentioned.

#1076

Which is the case for the amplifier of the output, but not for the inputs. If you notice each input channel has one volume control which is the same for both outputs, and then uses a pan control to change how much this is applied to each output. This is not the same as a dual mono, which would skip the volume+pan controls and go for volume per output. That’s why I said it’s stereo and not dual mono.

In any case, we can agree that it’s a weird implementation and leave it at that! :grinning: In the end of the day, nomenclature is unimportant, as long as we’ve figured out how it works!

#1077

What’s the top-left switch? Power?

#1078

The top left switch–and all the switches on the left–are low and high gain. Very helpful, although I’ve been exclusively using the high gain position.

#1079

So it sets the output gain?
The “H / L” on the lower-four were pretty self-explanatory, but the different labelling on the top-most threw me.

#1080

It’s entirely possible I misspoke in my previous response. A lot of people on this forum are very conversant in technical matters. Not me. I’m a writer. Everything’s a metaphor to me. Sorry for my inherent lack of technical accuracy.

The series of 5 rocker switches on the left of the panel act sort of like a 2-stage pre-amp. The left position is low, the right higher boost. I’ve been operating entirely on the right, higher boost position.

Hope that clarifies. This little mixer hits a great sweet spot for me: small, aesthetically pleasing and remarkably intuitive to use. Most important, the sound that comes out of it is very “clean,” if that makes any sense. Not a processed sort of clean, but very: dimensional with all the individual voices distinct.

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#1081

Indeed, everything is a metaphor. Until it’s like a simile.

Still not entirely clear but no worry. That probably means, rather than an incorrect answer, I have not asked the right question.

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