I’ve only recently returned to making music after a 10 year hiatus, thus my library of sounds and available recordings is… lacking. Not to mention my grid is not variable brightness, leaving me a bit on the ‘one hand tied behind my back’ in terms of cracking some of these nuts. Hopefully either I’ll spend some time and figure out the clip stuff, or someone could lend me some of their knowledge, but either way, I’d like to contribute on some better documentation for this and a few other apps for onboarding less savvy folks like myself. :wink:

I have recently started to explore the clips page and been struggling as well. I think I understand the very basics, but wondering if it’s possible to record live to a track and then copy/paste to other tracks.

the “clicks” are some of the things that first drew me to mlr/mlrv/rove and all its variants back in 2011. those little audio discontinuities and glitches from jumping between points, nonlinearly, within any given sample. those are a great deal of mlr’s charm, and especially why i liked the configurability of @Galapagoose’s mlrv; being able to adjust clickiness with its micro-fade length controls.

other things i love about mlr: discovering new things. whether from feeding it field recordings or acoustic melodies. the hidden steady rhythms that come from unusual “inner loop” points; when the whole sample is broken down and sifted for new textures and tiny rhythms. same for repeatedly flipping play direction: precise, or even sloppy/unstable timing, reveals new material, without otherwise altering the original sample.

mlr is constantly rewarding, especially when fed the simplest sounds. a single loop, duplicated across 2 - 4 tracks in different play directions and speeds, builds up kaleidoscopic tumbling melodies. a short rhodes, piano, or harp phrase; anything with quick attack envelopes, set against a longer field recording that loops in the background. with norns mlr, it’s so easy to build whole songs just by changing play speed & direction, and recording those gestures…and then recording play position/cuts, and then running the whole unsynced mix through delay and reverb. ambient bliss.

this can be the main point of a song, or the mlr layers can be put into the background, so that those gently-chopped glitches float up to the surface occasionally, then fade away to make room for the rest of the instruments. it’s really easy to lose track of time this way; letting the pattern recorders freely run their unsynced loops.

and all that is just for prepared samples that i put into norns in advance. @tehn’s original norns mlr video/demo offers tantalizing hints at what can be done when live-recording material on-the-fly.

sometimes, i’ll record samples without listening to them any further, put them on norns, then take the box out into the wilderness at home or abroad, and just see what happens. let things unfold in those different settings; surrounded by beautiful nature.

for me, mlr is a means of musical discovery. it continually surprises and delights. even when given samples that i recorded in advance, mlr produces things that are new to my ears; unique. melodies and moments that i had never imagined. known audio that is recombined, merged, split, reordered, rephrased; remade into something unknown and lovely.

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Okay, here is a REALLY goofy mock up of the basics of the clip page with description, let me know if anybody has tips on the “resize” function. I just wanted to put something up to see if it answers anyone’s questions about the clip page functions…

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i’ll investigate the resize function. https://github.com/tehn/mlr/issues/16

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Thinking of picking up a 16n as it seems it could be super useful with Norns/MLR. I would love something like this to quickly adjust the output volume, overdub, etc. of each track.

I’ve seen a few mentions throughout the thread, but would like to hear more about how well the 16n works with Norns/MLR and how easy setup is.

Thanks!

I’ve used my 16n with MLR Norns to do just what you are describing. Setup is super easy: just plug in the 16N into one of the Norns USB ports, select it as a MIDI device (from Norns setup menu), and then map a fader to any parameter you want on the Params page.

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Thanks! Ordered a 16n this morning. I’m sure it will come in handy with lots of things, but most excited to be able to control those MLR parameters easily.

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Hey, out of interest, where did you order your 16n from?
Thinking of getting one myself…

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Michigansynthworks has them in stock

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+1 for their quality. have the 16n and other euro modules made by them.

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+100 for Michigan Synthworks!
He has not only built several noiz weapons for me but has also done custom work for me as well over the years!

I’ve always had great dealings with him. Very helpful and quick to respond to questions too. The 16n works great with Norns!

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Haven’t had much time with the norns lately. But, I just tried messing around with mlr, and the track panning does not seem to work properly, it doesn’t sweep completely between left and right in my headphones. Is this a known bug, or just something locally on my norns? Running the most recent norns version.

Did you just update Norns? Have you also updated MLR? There was a breaking change with panning in the latest Norns update, so you’ll need to update scripts as well.

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Ah! That makes sense. Will need to update my mlr64 script then. Thanks!

The panning range was changed from 0 to 1, to -1 to 1. Probably a very simple change :slight_smile:

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I don’t think this change has been updated to the mlr git? But from my understanding, replace the code on line 347 to:
cs_PAN = controlspec.new(-1, 1, 'lin', 0, 0, "")

oh dang i apologize. i completely forgot to push the fix.

posted new version of mlr fixed for 2.2.0 — be sure to update your script

level_slew now works, as does pan

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