mlr (norns)

PeterBark · 2022-06-21T16:27:36.819Z

tutorial and beat based demo using MLR with some additional midi mapping from touchOSC. I included a download link for the touchOSC template in the video description for anyone interested.

ampism · 2022-06-24T09:11:58.111Z

@tehn Am I being totally stoopid, or is the “1file”, “2file” etc missing from Params page? I can’t load samples into MLR, and I’ve done this many times…(?)
Help!

sonoCircuit · 2022-06-24T10:54:00.878Z

not stupid at all!

sorry about the missing communication. @tehn merged a PR I made which adds total session save and recall via pset and “clickless” start/stop.

If you save a pset the whole buffer (50.3 MB) is saved together with a file including patterns/recalls, loop state, loop points, speeds and playback direction. I removed the “load file” in the params, because it conflicts with the way the “session save” feature is implemented. To load files you need to go to clip view and load your files there.

Also until the next norns update you’ll need to remove any files manually when psets are deleted. All files are stored under data/mlr/“pset number”.

ampism · 2022-06-24T11:04:44.978Z

sonoCircuit:

To load files you need to go to clip view and load your files there.

Ah! Got it. Up n’ running now. Thanks @sonoCircuit !

I understand how to load a sample now, but the rest of your post has left me kinda baffled…I’ll dissect it another time

Thanks again!

Update : confused again. I managed to load one sample from the tape folder, and then
play that sample over the 6 tracks, but when I want to load a different sound onto a different track, I’m getting in a muddle. See pic:

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2nd Update. On page 2, when I hold 2 grid keys to create a loop, the bright light passes straight through my loop, and just plays as normal (?)

Catchthehare · 2022-06-24T11:12:33.591Z

Great work - I’m enjoying your series!

sonoCircuit · 2022-06-24T11:45:01.551Z

ampism:

in a muddle

not sure what you mean by this. I can see that clip 4 is assigned to track 3 and no clip is loaded.

ampism:

2 grid keys to create a loop

I am assuming that the loop was set before loading another clip. If so this is normal behaviour as the loops are reset when loading a clip (however the lit keys aren’t cleared, which is something to address). If this is not the case, please reload mlr and see if this persists.

edit: sounds nice btw.

ampism · 2022-06-24T12:49:30.696Z

sonoCircuit:

not sure what you mean by this. I can see that clip 4 is assigned to track 3 and no clip is loaded.

Yes, shoulda been clearer, apologies. I just mean that I don’t know how (or why) track 3 is selected. Let’s say I opened MLR and I wanted to put 3 samples, called “A”, “B” and “C” onto tracks 1,2 and 3 respectively. How would I go about that?

Regarding the looping on page 2, do you mean that if I select an area to loop, and then load a new sample, that sample will not adhere to the current settings and will just play from start to finish?

Sorry. I know all this stuff is second nature to most people on this forum, but to me it’s very hard to understand.

sonoCircuit · 2022-06-24T13:18:27.764Z

No apology needed!

ampism:

I wanted to put 3 samples, called “A”, “B” and “C” onto tracks 1,2 and 3

On the clip page rows 2-7 correspond to the tracks 1-6 and the columns 1- 7 correspond to the selected clip (there are 16 key lit but only the first 7 can be selected). You can assign any track to any clip (clips can also be assigned to multiple tracks). By default the clips 1- 6 are assigned to tracks 1 - 6 (track 1 → clip 1, track 2 → clip 2 etc.). So you need to press the corresponding key to select a clip and load your sample there.

ampism:

will not adhere to the current settings and will just play from start to finish

Yes, when a clip is loaded the start and end point are set to the start/end of the loaded file.

ampism · 2022-06-24T17:29:33.406Z

sonoCircuit:

On the clip page rows 2-7 correspond to the tracks 1-6 and the columns 1- 7 correspond to the selected clip (there are 16 key lit but only the first 7 can be selected). You can assign any track to any clip (clips can also be assigned to multiple tracks). By default the clips 1- 6 are assigned to tracks 1 - 6 (track 1 → clip 1, track 2 → clip 2 etc.). So you need to press the corresponding key to select a clip and load your sample there.

Great - this is super helpful. Thank you

sonoCircuit:

Yes, when a clip is loaded the start and end point are set to the start/end of the loaded file.

So is this a bug? Or a conscious choice?

ReallyRad · 2022-06-25T07:56:23.589Z

Wwoow! I’m booting up mlr to start working on some modifications and there is a new version online since 1 month? No changelog? Really curious to see what was added.

EDIT : oh no, I see it’s just a version bump

elvale14 · 2022-07-01T17:35:21.630Z

Is there a way to use the four recall/macro control buttons available on the 128 grid on a 64 grid?

SOLVED

Did some research in this thread and found a diagram for the 64 grid that I had not seen before. I never knew the three bottom left grid buttons had that functionality. Super stoked to be able to play around with recall slots!!!

Lizards_Case · 2022-07-04T09:35:13.173Z

Just want to say a massive thank you for porting this to Norns and giving it all that love with the updates. I own a grid since 2 tears or so but I was never able to use mlr in a stable fashion. This changed radically with having it on norns. It works like a charm now.

My only miss would be having it sync reliably in slave mode, be it midi or link since a daw will never be happy beeing slave.

Still - a big up and many thanx for mlr on norns!

LC

kasselvania · 2022-07-04T14:57:37.951Z

I agree with the desire for hard clocking. Sadly, this is not so much a part of the way this scripts very foundation is built.

As an option, re:mix, the M4L representation of mlr works great in modern Live. It’s a pain in the butt to setup, but it works.

Also, a friend of mine has been digging deeper in to Norns programming for his own project. There’s some crossover between looping/recording functionality, so I’m bugging him almost daily to look at making a spin-off of his code base for a more “clock-able” mlr variant. Preferably incorporating the arc controls that have been added to some branches

tournesol · 2022-07-04T18:04:56.711Z

kasselvania:

Also, a friend of mine has been digging deeper in to Norns programming for his own project. There’s some crossover between looping/recording functionality, so I’m bugging him almost daily to look at making a spin-off of his code base for a more “clock-able” mlr variant. Preferably incorporating the arc controls that have been added to some branches

More “clock-able” mlr would be amazing

kasselvania · 2022-07-04T18:17:52.427Z

We’ll see if I can motivate/convince him!

eigen · 2022-07-22T21:55:37.993Z

just discovered the “total session recall” (including sound files) recently implemented by @sonoCircuit.

that’s pretty dawn awesome.

too bad this feature didn’t get backported to the grid 64 fork(s).

so, why not integrate 64 support in the main branch?

github.com/tehn/mlr

support for both grid 64 & 128

tehn:master ← p3r7:master

opened 09:48PM - 22 Jul 22 UTC

p3r7

+152 -33

i have both a 64 and a 128, and i felt bad for having to use a not up-to-date fo…rk for the 64. this PR ports the layout from the fork (w/ recalls on the last row). the code could be refactored to have a cleaner shared code for the 2 layouts but hey i wanted to be the least intrusive as possible for this 1rst run. i played w/ this fork on both grids and haven't spotted any regression but might not have used every feature.

n9n9n9 · 2022-08-09T15:04:35.840Z

finally worked out getting a monome 128 and so I am very new to mlr after watching with great interest since @tehn’s first videos. I have questions.

I’ve been using loopers since the oberheim echoplex in 95. Can mlr do the “start recording, stop recording + set loop length” style looping? I’m happy to learn a new way to loop, but it feels like it wants to do this… multiple async loops where the loop length is set at record-time.
I usually record longer melodic loops (from guitar, sax and piano)… is there a way to set the “default” loop length on mlr to be something like 20 seconds? I’ve used the Q + global tempo setting and that works ok, but I wondered if the default could just be made longer without the slowed down, lower fidelity audio effect of changing the global tempo to 5 or 6.

I just want to say that I couldn’t be more grateful to be able to use this tool. Thanks to everyone that has been making it while I’ve been slowly getting here.

doomglue · 2022-08-09T15:16:42.172Z

I am at work and others might know the script better and can point you in the right direction but I am curious to hear what you might do with it.
This might answer a few questions: My Favorite Norns Scripts Episode 5: MLR - YouTube (really great series). Also, check out this expansion of MLR called mlre.

PeterBark · 2022-08-09T15:55:03.902Z

I’m actually releasing an episode about mlre next Tuesday, I’ll link that in the mlre thread when it’s out!

andrew · 2022-08-16T03:18:09.001Z

n9n9n9:

Can mlr do the “start recording, stop recording + set loop length” style looping?

i’m not sure if mlre does this, but if not, you could try out this guy (max loop length is 2mins or so). not much of an mlr but very much inspired by some facets of it ~