They are both standard banana. Some manufacturers (like Pomona) in my experience are a bit tight when new.

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You’ll want to try patching between an output and input. Touch red to green for example. You can patch orange to green but those voltages will sometimes require interaction with the barres.

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Thanks for confirming @corpusjonsey.

To contribute to the thread a little further, this instrument sounds lovely and doesn’t veer into the chaotic as easily as, say, a Benjolin. I can tell already that patching this will yield some interesting results. Though I don’t have experience with other CL instruments to compare to, I can recommend this as a great starter. :slightly_smiling_face:

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@Zeke_B you have to be the conduit between an input and an output for the pads to work. Basically you’re letting the current flow through you, it’s not like a normal touchpad. You need two points to connect between using your body.

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Thank you @amycatass and @Jonny—that answers my questions and provides great guidance!

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Try patching things from orange to gray. Things can get crazy! I recently got a tetrax and the range is pretty wild.

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Will do! Thanks for the tip. I just patched release to it’s own glitch input and am also sending fm from another osc and that is really cool—two timbres in one!

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Found some components laying around and decided to use them before I order the actual components

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This may not be the right location but does anyone have a good idea where I can start with circuits etc? I really wish I could understand these discussions haha.

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i wish i knew, haha
i kinda just bought The Art Of Electronics and started talking to diy boards and servers.

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Perfect, thank you! I’ll check that out.

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Nicolas Collins’ book Handmade Electronic Music is a great text (I do wonder sometimes if it was an influence on Peter Blasser).

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I started back this spring with very little electronics knowledge, it’s a fun entry-point into it! I’d say first would be find the circuit that speaks to you. I’ve tried a handful but the books haven’t work for me (yet), there’s too much hard math and they don’t make weird noises and I eventually just give up on em. I more just google when there’s something I don’t understand and treat the stuff I can’t understand yet as mystical, and then annoy smart people on forums such as this one with questions, it has worked so far lol.

@mlogger has a list in his trade thread for pcb with some quick descriptions (I believe @crucFX has done some more pcb conversions recently…not sure if there’s a list somewhere)

https://llllllll.co/t/fs-ww-ciat-lonbarde-paper-circuits-pcbs/23342

and then search for them on youtube to get an idea of the kinds of sounds they do.

Then, once you have the one(s) you want to do…find the paper circuit file (or a pcb someone has made of them) and start determining the components you need.

There is a master legend list of (most) of what the symbols stand for, and each of the paper circuit printouts on the cl site usually has some info about a handful of them (so it’s a bit like a scavenger hunt as you look through all of them to learn little tidbits of peter’s code). Make sure to search here to see if there are cool mods people have found, hairy cap and x resistor values, etc.

Once you get your list of stuff together you need, you can get nearly everything from tayda which is like if radioshack still existed (or digikey/mouser which has four billion of everything), save for a couple discontinued parts that you can gamble with on ebay sellers or find comparable parts/smd versions and PDIP -> SOIC adapters.

As I’ve started to understand more, this circuit simulator tool has been extremely helpful in “testing out” ideas, as have breadboards. https://www.falstad.com/circuit/circuitjs.html

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I just wanted to add to some of the tips here for a newb and say that you don’t NEED to fully insert the banana plugs either.

I almost always (especially on the Sid n Tet where pulling a cable with force could easily cause me to nudge one of the pitch sliders) just patch it in far enough for a connection.

I found this out late in my banana journey and it’s made a hell of a difference. Especially when you just want to check connections quickly or when tearing down patches :+1:

Enjoy the Tet, it’s lovely :black_heart:

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20 chars of thank you!

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Thanks for checking it out! Yeah the sync method works a treat, let me know if you discover any other ‘tricks’ :slightly_smiling_face:

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I can remove this if it’s off-topic, but can anyone who’s ordered directly from CL during the pandemic share how long lead time is at the moment, or at least what yours was?

The things I’ve ordered have all shipped out within 2 weeks, but the site says they can take up to a month if they need to be built.

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I ordered a Deerhorn 2 days ago, I can let you know when it ships!

Even pre pandemic, I’ve had mixed results. I think it all depends on what he already has built. I’ve ordered stuff that shipped the next day and other things took a week or more.

Never had to wait a month though :grimacing:

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Thank you both! Planning on ordering a Plumbutter in the new year and was curious.