Some DIY ciat PCB’S arrived today!



This CV ROOLZ is pretty big, will eventually revise it via SMD. :slight_smile:

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Finished the dogvoice board, tomorrow I’ll get the case ready and wire it up!

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i definitely give ya props! thats a dense one lol.

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how do i hook up a @crucFX CL power module and also have it be able to use a 9v battery?

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2 ways - but i’ll explain the easiest -
Connect both the power board obelisk and battery snap at the obelisk on the dogvoice :slight_smile:

If you want to ground the power board section when not in use - you can run the positive of the power board and the positive of the battery snap to the positive on the dogvoice -
and then run the negative of the of the power board to the negative on the dogvoice - and then the negative of the battery snap to the negative switch of the DC Jack.

But the first way mentioned is the easiest. :slight_smile:

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I’m finally getting around to assembling the chainlock PCB I got last year. This project helped me understand that I don’t know how to tell one transistor from another. My housemate has a sack of 2N3904 which wikipedia says is “similar to a BC548” so that’s cool. I think I’ve seen someone with a BC548 tattoo but didn’t recognize. What properties of a transistor are important to determine if one model is “similar enough” to another?

I bought 10 PNP transistors in the mouser order because same housmate didn’t have any spares but I didn’t know what to get so I searched for “PNP BJT” and picked the first through hole one. It’s labeled as a “medium power, high voltage” transistor. Any clues why Peter B drew a - symbol next to the NPN transistor footprints? Halp!

In general for CL paper circuits you can use a 2N3904 instead of a BC54x (and 2N3906 for BC55x) but you need to flip it (its CBE legs are in opposite order).

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Yikes! Important detail. /me goes back to learning how to read transistor spec sheets.

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I don’t remember where I found this explanation but if you’re interested in the differences between BC5x7 / BC5x8 / BC5x9 here’s what I found some time ago :

“Basically: think of transistors coming off a production line; if they have high voltage capability (low leakage at high collector voltages) they have “BC547” printed on them, if they have very low noise they have “BC549” printed on them, otherwise (so long as they work and have reasonably okay specifications) they are sold as BC548 transistors. Then there are BC546 transistors (extra high voltage) and BC550 (both high voltage and low noise). Some manufacturers then go further and add “A”, “B” or “C” to the type number depending on whether they have lowish gain (110–220) or medium gain (200–450) or high gain (420–800, or to 900 depending on whose datasheet you read).”

When I started building paper circuits I used BC5x6 (as noted on the “Paper circuits master legend”), but they didn’t work with the Rollz-5 papers and I had to desolder all of them from paper it was a total nightmare!

I later found out most Ciat circuits needs at least BC5x7, and while running out of transistor someone on the ciat lonbarde cool kids FB group explainded to me i could use 2N3904/2N3906 instead. I now use them exclusively as they are pretty common in other synth DIY designs (Lorre-mill etc.) you just have to remember to flip them around :slight_smile:.
There may be small audio differences between transistors but it works as planned.

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That’s a very good explanation, thanks. Unrelated I just discovered ordering a “through hole resistor” on Mouser doesn’t mean the wire gauge will fit a “through hole PCB”. Wamp wamp.

I got this PCB from a friend who put them up for sale on the cool kids FB group. I should work on my allergy to facebook.

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With Peter moving to Europe and the synthmall shop closing, does anyone know if the IFM line is expected to be continuing to be available as individual modules through Patch Point?

I’d like to start exploring in this direction but can’t buy the whole set at once.

Thanks!

Have you tried running a sidrax red through format jumbler then into the coco’s piezo and using the envelope follower out as cv source? Then adjusting the slider might give you a better response instead of just patching straight in from red? I know when monitoring from sidrax red outs patching from ground to sidrax main pitch jack shoots it’s up into reallllly high range, not sure how to lower the range down into cv though .

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Aulos Rungler Pitchbender Logics - first test -


Yep - definitely going to figure out a neat “touch” interface for this ones case.
Its kinda like a crackle box on steroids. lol

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Made a little touch box for it.
Video

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very cool, is that copper tape?

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it is!
20 char…

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I just realized from this thread that I had bought 2n390x transistors and had no idea (or had forgotten in the months since I ordered the BOM!) that I had to switch orientation! Glad I caught this before soldering my boards. this also could explain why the spikering I tried to build last summer didn’t work! thanks linesco!

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PUGIX built my Quantussy Petals - and oh my - the results are amazing.

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Whoa. Nice one. Quantussy is great for modulation.

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just posted a video of the rollz5 I shared a few days ago:

Also shout out to @crucFX for the incredible 5-6 CV Roolz (which is the box on the right).

I’ve also very recently acquired a plumbutter, so it’s been really fun playing with both of them and seeing the different stages of peter’s design of the circuits!

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