I used these in my build (PUSH BUTTON SWITCH MOMENTARY Black Color SPST 3A 250VAC), and they work well enough. I believe they’re spring-loaded though, which means they’re not an effortless squish. When trying to hold multiple buttons down simultaneously, they can be a bit finicky.

These may work better, but someone who has used them would have to confirm: Push Button Switch Momentary Panel Mount Red Knob 3 Pin SPST

You could also go the “fancy” route and utilize switches that are commonly found in Serge systems. But, between the switch, the cap, and the decorative skirt nut, you’re looking at about $8.50 per button. They look fantastic though, and work like a charm.

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yep this is normal + 20

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The CQ’s orange jacks produce a pretty different signal from the PB’s (you can try listening to them by patching them into one of the CQ’s Green audio input jacks and hear the difference for yourself). But, some things you can try are:

  • Patch an Orange or Grey from the CQ into a format converter, and then use the PB’s minijack inputs to ping the gongs directly (this also lets you circumvent the gongs’ clock dividers, which cap things a lot slower than the CQ tends to go)
  • Patch an Orange or Grey from the CQ into the Purple data-in jack of the PB’s sequencer, and then clock it with a Roll to get pulses in a format the PB’s greens like. You can actually do this with a lot of signals, although whether you feel like the pulse patterns you get “represent” the data signal, or are just chaos can be a bit of a crap shoot sometimes.
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Thanks for the info and tips, @GameDesignerBen This helps a lot!

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Any suggestions for using the PB yellow ultrasound, apart from audio rate mod types of things? Yellows always feel like the fringe jacks, only two on Coco and PB

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Try pinging the ultrasound with the rollz, love the glitchy percussion you get out of them!

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Sure, I was pondering about use of the yellow jack out though?

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Ah sorry misunderstood! You could use those to reroute the output signals through avdog or deerhorn for instance? Or feedbacking into itself? :thinking:

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clock the MWRS with some/one orange outs from rollz and then put the yellow into the data in to chop up the signal a bit
combining the original out and this new self referential modulation to drive the purple CV in on the OTHER ultrasound can be interesting.

or doing the ultrasound out into the clock input and an audio source into the data and then taking different outs to FM other parts like the deerhorn

banana > minijack adapter the ultra out into an AVdog in. chop the signal up in a different way and recombine as in the first example. these self referential modulations are really fun.

This kind of workflow is also how you really get far in video synthesis. Parallel processing and then recombining in different blending modes.

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Ultrasound to mixer section can also be nice.

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ultra sound yellows into av dog purple is nice for stepped pitch content from the av dog. also ultra yellow into snare blues is fun, modulate the ultrasound filter for cool pitched snares.

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this is my first tip too (tho i don’t always get the patch right :upside_down_face:). obvs you can patch to deerhorn purples as well for even more squishy fm. idk it’s still early for me today

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Feedback into itself is marvellous fun…

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Hi folks! I recently ordered a Cocoquantus V2 and Double Knot. I’ve heard about avoiding negative voltages with both of these instruments while cross patching. Does the Cocoquantus send any negative voltages?

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No, it doesn’t, you’ll be safe as long as you share ground. I think if you run a forum search for Double Knot and Ciat Lonbarde, you’ll find posts with the exhaustive details.

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I had some interesting sounds exploring these methods, thanks. Actually MWRS often gets omitted in patches, I tend to gravitate towards the PB rolls and a sprinkle of Rollz-5.

clock the MWRS with some/one orange outs from rollz and then put the yellow into the data in to chop up the signal a bit
combining the original out and this new self referential modulation to drive the purple CV in on the OTHER ultrasound can be interesting.

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Patch both yellow outs into both of the snaredrum vc-decays. Than modulate the fm’s of the ultrasounds for a variations of high and low pitched snaredrums.

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Sorry what is the MWRS? I feel like I know but can’t think what that is. Loving this thread on patch ideas.

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man with the red steam, it’s the shift register and snare :slight_smile:

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As far as I can tell, the official manuals and descriptions on Patch Point abandoned the term and just call it the Sequencer now, so “MWRS” becomes more archaic with every passing day.

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