I’ll sum it up with this: if you’re going bananas, do it right! Maybe for you that includes some C-L gear? Maybe it includes holding off on your C-L purchase to get the Serge panel (or whatever) of your dreams!

I think they excel most as texture generators and sound manglers. I had unreasonable expectations about their melodic capabilities.

To be honest. That was the reason to get myself a Mood Mk2 pedal.

It didn’t feel like a coco at all. The coco is a beautiful unpredictable machine. The mood was a well done delay / reverb pedal intertwined with a really tame glitchy looper. The coco on the other hand can go really harsh, ugly and brutal.

About Coco and Mood, are we forgetting the whole oscillator section with 5 oscillators, incredible modulation possibilities, a chaos knob etc and all the input possibilities? Coco is a beast and for me personally the masterpiece of the C-L family.

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Amen to that !

I own a Cocoquantus 2, a Microcosm and a Mood MkII… they’re all different, despite many similarities, and it’s a real pleasure to be able to use all three in the same configuration… they’re fantastic effects, but the Cocoquantus 2 is the only one that’s also an incredible instrument in its own right.

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@KHAGE The Coco is the instrument I will take to a desert island. It’s definitely my favorite CL too. I have a mood mk2 waiting for me at home. I can’t wait to try both sets

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this might work for some of y’all :stuck_out_tongue:
haha tho its silly and I couldnt stand drawing this lololol.

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hey man what is this?? Is this a way to sequence Coco using a keystep, a format jumbler and a Tetrax??

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yeah - just using the tet or sid as the oscillators - using the left and right coco’s as vcas - using the pitch out from the keystep into the grey master pitch on the organ.
Gives you a lil 4 voice key synth that you can play semi normally… shudders lolol

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Does anyone have a good tuning solution for CL-instruments? I’m entertaining the thought of playing live with Deerhorn and want at least the option of playing in traditional scales. Is there a tuner with stereo in, or should I just get two cheap regular tuners, one for each channel?

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Has anyone changed the battery on a Tocante unit?

My Karper isn’t really working anymore even if I leave it in the sun for a day. I get a short little fizz sound when I touch it. I’m thinking the battery might just be completely dead (it’s quite a few years old, I think I bought it when the Karper itself had recently come out).

Don’t know what the best option is for replacing the internal battery etc… or if it’s a particularly faffy swap out.

I use the Korg NTS-2 to “tune” my Sidrax.

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Ooh! That seems like a good choice! I will see if I can get a used one. Thank you!

you would easily be able to do it yourself.
It should be a long pack (x6 AAA Cell) with just 2 wires to the board.
I think the Karper came out after Peter switched from the Varta x3 button cell packs.

Genuine Packs from TNR Batteries -
Part Number: W PETER BLASSER HRAAAUX-L32W
Please note - these packs are expensive… it is pointless to only order 1 single unit… as the shipping is almost as much as the pack…

Here is an alternative that is the same specs, and should work without any issue - Custom NiMH Battery Pack: 7.2V 300 mAh ( 6 x 2/3AAA )

:slight_smile:

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Awesome, super good to know! Not fussed about having an original thing (love the part number!) so the alternative is fine.

Hmm, does anyone know of an EU/UK source for a suitable alternative? Ordering just one (or two for a backup) from the US + shipping + customs isn’t super appetizing…

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Maaaaybe, just maaaybbbe, write to patch point - oooor Signal Sounds used to be a dealer I think…
They may still have some batteries…
Not sure if patch point will sell one separately, but they may, because they started selling them with Studworth kits.

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Good shout, particularly since they have one nearby now (Lisbon)!

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Patch point is live on instagram with the golden section https://www.instagram.com/patchpoint/live/18020230013124895

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GOLDEN SECTION Description Update

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Regarding IFM Swoop’s triggered swoop section (bottom inputs), it seems to me that these inputs don’t trigger a swoop at all :thinking: Rather, they temporarily set the upper or lower bound to the extreme high or low limits.

IOW your Swoop will continue to swoop in the direction it is currently swooping until it hits a bound. There is no in-built way to force a force a reversal or reset.

Swoop is deffo my favorite LFO these days but I’ve got complacent with patching it too simply. I need to experiment with things like moving the bounds faster than the bounce rate, or using external logic to get more complex behavior. Like, what happens if you’re swooping down but the upper bound gets lowered below the current output?

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do any of the existing instruments have s/h circuits on them where you have access to the input like that? only s/h circuit i can think of off the top is the various ones on quantussy but they’re all hardwired.

also based on this description i’m guessing blue is a frequency input and there is no clock input?

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