hey thanks lijnenspel - nice plumbuttering!

Here’s a work in progress of a commissioned piece for sound of an art exhibition. Keywords of the brief were: 30 minutes, quiet, underwater.

Made it in two steps. Created a random blurb with the Plumbutter, fed into paul stretch with some harmonics added, that gave me 30 minutes of drone. That drone I fed into the gongues > ultrasound > plumbutter of the Plumbutter producing this weird noise. Added some more standard avdog and deerhorn sounds on the go. It’s completely unprocessed, recorded straight from the Plumbutter and thus hard panned and full of static. Love this machine.

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OK, so, despite reading up on these, AND watching the video a while ago, I can’t seem to figure out which one of the Mobenthy modules should I get to explore first.

I am interested in using one (at least the first one) mainly as a source of CV. I am thinking it would be used to provide a somewhat erratic and/or unpredictable modulations for patterns.

so, question t those who own or have used these: which one would you recommend for this sort of application?

don’t have any of PB’s euro modules but I’ve got some of his CL line
I would imagine fourses would be a great erratic CV source

yup, after another look i decided to try out the Foursees and Dunst.

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This looks pretty interesting too:

(From Meng Qi Instagram feed)

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Yup, I’m super excited about that as it’s one of my favorite of his circuits. Cool thread on Muffs about it:
https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=167186

There’s also this Mocante + grassi enclosure:

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I’m very sad because @wednesdayayay’s lengthy comment to this post seems to have gone away with CDM’s recent redesign.

He had some excellent notes and links about tuning the shnth. I wish I had saved those notes somewhere.

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“- in one sense the shnth is like a complete modular synth with 20+ oscillators, 12 filters, 16 lfo/envelopes, 8 n-length sequencers, 8 slews, 12 granular sounds, 16 delay & karplus effects, 8 sample and holds, 8 random generators, 8 pulse divider/staircase generator with a variable length, 8 variable duty cycle pulse wave, unlimited nuts for circuit bending, waveshaping, comparators,etc. plus peter is still developing more opcodes, including some really unique ones, so this is just whats in the initial release. so just by its nature its designed to be flexible. - 2nd, the way peter designed all these operators to work together was pretty ingenius in that any thing in shlisp can be plugged into any other thing in shlisp including of course itself, i.e. there is no distinction between audio, control signals, gestures,etc they are all just ‘data’. plus everything in shLISP effects the sound in some way, there are no other programming structures to setup or learn. alot of the power of shLISP come from the simple idea of recursion, i.e. plugging an expression into the parameter of another expression then plugging the output of that into the input of another expression, and so on and so forth. so basically everything can be modulated by everything else…again, just like in a modular synth. - 3rd, there are several ways to pre-compose patches if you desire - there are the sequencers which can store preset parameter values and switch them at the press of a button (sort of like the serge SQP); there is the ability to trigger sounds or switch them on and off, using buttons though actually any gesture or other opcode can do this…you can patch the mic to fire off an envelope which makes a sound audible when the mic input rises above a certain threshold for example. and then a third way to compose is to arrange various situations within a txt and step through them in the order you desire. they can be very subtle variations on the same patch, maybe with diff’t parameter values or changing the filter type,etc or they can be completely different sounds in the order you want to perform them…or you can jump around them randomly with a sample and hold for example. 4th, this is all wrapped in a custom-designed touch interface (4 bars, 9 buttons, 2 touch antennas, 1 mic) which can all be used to control any aspect of the synth. again i think this is the critical thing about the shnth - because there is no distinction between ‘audio’, ‘control signals’ and ‘gestures’ any of these things can be substituted for anything else in any expression, as many layers deep as you want. so you can squish the filter cutoff and Q while speaking into the mic which is being AM’d by a triangle wave which is being modulated by the antennas you’re touching…and then you can take that whole thing and make it determine the tuning of your granular oscillator which is having its rate and grain envelope being determined by bar presses, etc. i can’t stress enough how powerful the simple idea of recursion is when implemented in a ‘modular synth’ paradigm like this.”

here is a brief idea about tuning the shnth

“will definitely do a tuning one. just to try and answer your question here briefly, with the Shnth the opcode ‘srate’ sets the fundamental frequency (which is 4 octaves below the actual sampling rate). if you want to do tonal stuff then its best to specify the srate using 16-bit numbers, then you can dial it in exactly. meng qi made a very helpful srate calculator which gives the ‘short’ (16-bit number) for each corresponding note on a standard keyboard, its available on the shbobo forum. so basically the nume and deno of an oscillator specify its pitch relationship to that fundamental based on the just intonation tuning system…so for example a horn with a nume of 96 and a deno of 64 will be a perfect 5th above the fundamental (ie 3:2 ratio), one with a nume of 80 and a deno of 64 will be a major 3rd above it (5:4 ratio), etc. there’s a couple of really good websites on just intonation online, i can send you the links if you like. its gets really interesting when you get into the larger prime limits like 11 or 13, then you can explore these really hairy microtonal scales. i’ll try to explain all this better in a video and associated forum post but hopefully this will help a bit until then.”

a blog post by peter (ciat lonbarde, shbobo) that goes into a lot of detail about tuning all his instruments

the first two videos in the tutorial series that has recently been started covering shnth concepts


here is a video example of the ability to jump/bend through patches live allowing for instant reprogramming of the shnth on the fly with no host computer (unless you want one)

this one is a shnth (with the preloaded patch) playing through a ciat lonbarde plumbutter

some sounds coming from a sort of emulation of an analogue instrument (quantussy section of the cocoquantus) being used in a couple different ways

this one is for those people who are still with us, PB himself talking about a standalone application that is available for the shnth (there are also more coming)

and here is the actual press http://createdigitalmusic.com/2013/08/wacky-wooden-shnth-makes-eerie-sounds-colors-outside-the-lines-documentary/

since this came out I found out I can use the shnth as a reprogrammable controller as well as sounding device

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Thank you @wednesdayayay! If you get a chance to untruncate those links sometime, it’d be great.

It’s too bad the shbobo forum mentioned does not appear to exist any longer.

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yeah I was real sad when the bots started swarming the shbobo forum

a lot of info was lost

I didn’t think I had this post still but I vaguely remembered sending my dad (started my love of synths and still has an original ms20 and a matrix6) an email about my shnth explorations shortly after posting on CDM

the only link that isn’t working is the vimeo bending one I’ll try to fix that if it still exists

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Dunst was underwhelming for me.
I am enjoying and keeping the Fourses now, and wondering if anyone might have suggestions/comments on the other modules.
Based on my “so so” experience with Dunst, I am a little les excited, but am thinking of giving another/different one a try…
What do you say?

justints still looks like such an engaging interface
need to get out of this thread before I fall for this again

Based on what it does, the Dunst isn’t on my list of stuff to get (especially given the scope of my planned system). A friend of mine got a Denum and was a bit underwhelmed by it (he was hoping for “crazy”, and it wasn’t that), though I can’t comment specifically because I haven’t tried it.

Based on his other instruments/circuits, I like the idea of the Swoop, and the Sprott also seems exciting (both on my list, along with a Fourses), but again, this is from previous experience with his stuff, and no hands-on with the modules.

I bought the Denum and sprott together and ended up selling the denum. Sprott however is one of my favorite modules at the moment. I dont really use it as a filter ever. More as a chaos generator the 3 range switch all seem to influence what happens at the choas out. The 8 inputs down the left side all influence what happens when signals are inserted along with the attenuverters on the other side. It can be used as a normal filter get aggressive very quickly. Weirdly the resonance sweep is in the opposite direction. Everything about it is totally quirky. I have no idea how the chaos thing does what it does? Not a clue. I gave up on the manual after 1 read just started messing with it. Feeding just friends into it and the chaos out back into the fm input in shape/cycle mode yeilds some great results they have been patched together like that a few weeks now hitting JF OSC FM inputs and LPG’s. Someone mentioned on MW that the HP BP LP might feed into each other in series or something to cause the chaos out. Im not sure… It definitely worth a look if your looking for something interesting and unpredictable personally I think its awesome, totally original.

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had to talk myself off the plumbutter ledge this morning

someday but not right now

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I agree, Dunst was very underwhelming but i really Dig the Denum, Swoop, Sprott and Fourses those all deliver Quad Chaotic LFO, Filters and Serge-ish Slew and the Denum is like one Fourse kinda. They all have made several cuts in my case whereas Dunst was ejected and a simple Quantum Rainbow took over the “dust” duties. I also have great fun excited them externally with a Bass Bistab and a Shbobo.

I sold my Sidrax for an ARC. i had it all tuned in Just Intonation and even performed in quartet for a Ligeti Articulations realization but soon found i had a very expensive tuned block of wood sitting there and while i love the sounds and the banana cables etc… It’s just not as exciting for me as the Shbobo and the Bistabs. I like putting a lap steel slide and quarters on the bistab and patch it into some of the modules for nice noises

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how much room is there on this ledge? does someone have to fall to make space?

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lol

i hope not
thought about it before and talked myself down multiple times

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