My pleasure. It literally just ‘happened’ - I dropped the samples into Cocoquantus and then played the OP1 on top live for the opening piece for example. A little bit of live patching on the other pieces and this album was born.

There’s such a joy in these instruments in their organic nature I find. Always happy surprises! Thanks again for listening.

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That’s amazing. I’m still new to the Cocoquantus (but really loving it), so I’m still learning. At times, it seems to have a mind of its own, which is one of the aspects about it that I like. When you say you “dropped the samples in” what do you mean? I assume you played them into the inputs from some source (a recorder or your computer, perhaps?), or did you go via a different method?

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I’m wondering if there is enough interest to spin off a thread devoted to the IFM eurorack modules.

I’m quite curious about them, and it seems like the non-eurorack instruments here are pretty distinct from them.

Just a thought…

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sorry, yes ‘dropped the samples’ was just me trying to sound funky :joy:
I played them from my iPhone into the Cocoquantus, nice and simple. Then played with the pitch and patching, found something I liked and played against it. Very simple really.

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Upcoming Strategic Tape Reserves release with full Ciat-Lonbarde instrumentation: The Tuesday Night Machines - Lozenge

“Created by The Tuesday Night Machines with a Ciat Lonbarde Sidrax Organ, Cocoquantus, Plumbutter and Meng Qi Rollz-5.”

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Inspired by those people struggling to find CD4067s to make their Gerassic Organs, I had a quick play last night to redesign it to use the easy to find CD4051. This means it only has 4 notes, rather than 8, of course.

I think it’s right, but it would probably be wise to breadboard it before building.

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A couple years back in this thread @emenel asked about cases for Peter’s instruments and I don’t feel like that question got answered too thoroughly. I’m also wondering about how everyone is traveling with or moving their stuff. Ideally I’d love to get a single pelican case of sorts that would fit Coco, PB2, and Sidrax.

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That is awesome!! :smiley:
Great job on the redesign!

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I used to have them velcro mounted to a pedalboard (along with some effects and an octatrack) that hinges into a case for transport. Worked really well and quick to set up.

2-Roll LFO x8 Pulse Outs triggering MI Braids Trigger Input.

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the gerassic organ design is slowly moving forward. huge thanks to @pichenettes for the help figuring out the CV input stuff, lots of interesting explanation about how the circuit actually works over on the MI forum in this thread if anyone is curious. https://forum.mutable-instruments.net/t/voltage-controlled-resistor-circuit/17252/10

I’m working on making the schematic changes, and procuring a 2164 chip to experiment with these new ideas with a lot of help from @brianleu.

Today I made some music with the breadboarded organ with mangrove accompanying it with some bass notes. the gerassic organ is playing the melody line, triggered from tides. tides is also changing the rate of an lfo from stages, which is sent as a dc offset added to the gerassic audio signal…it. creates the kick drum-esque pulse, noise and ultrasonic stuff…it’s strange how much this transformer sounds like what I’ve heard of the rollz-5!

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this sounds great! It’s been fun watching this project evolve :slight_smile:

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Thanks! The sound of the organ is definitely getting me through investing the time to try to figure it all out!

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I would like to share my current ambitious project…
It is not complete yet.
EuRoolz -

After experimenting for a while with the 2-Roll LFO x8 design that I did, and seeing the benefits of the Positive Pulse Out modifications for being utilized as both CV and Trigger generation, I opted to start working on a module based on x3 6-Roolz with the ArpSerge-Assemblage’s in play.

I have made out a Mido generator on a bread board with a 358 and it generates a stable 4.5 ref. for the Verso and Inverso section.


Pictured is the whole power section running on 12v in from an FC Microbus

I am hoping to wrap this up by the end of the month.
Routing is proving to be a pain in the butt because I chose to continue Peter’s Circuit Aesthetic… lol

LMK what you guys and gals think!!

This is essentially a triple VCLFO with the ability to inter-patch the 5-Roll sections with bananas (4mm Bullet Connectors) and the Jack next to the 5-Rolls sections is the 6th Roll (Modified Positive Pulse Out) - the Large Holes are the Pots - and the 6 jacks from top to bottom on the left side are the Verso and Invero Inputs.
All of the standard jacks will be 3.5mm Thonkiconns.

These are basically Plumbutters Roolz… :slight_smile:

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looking for some clarification regarding spikering, perhaps @mlogger might be able to help:

  1. what are the 102’s with the little incomplete lines in the centre:
    Screen Shot 2020-08-14 at 11.04.29 PM

  2. richard pugix brewster hooks a piezo up to the castle symbol, master legend says it’s an output for a speaker or a jack… does it matter?
    Screen Shot 2020-08-14 at 11.10.07 PM

  3. x & y resistors - 10k?

  4. CHAO resistor - 220K?

that’s it, thanks in advance!

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.1μF (104) *** Ignore me - was reading the schem stoned LOL ***

weird - that tends to be a balance Output.
Piezo is usually an icecream cone or a baseball field, however you wanna look at it lol.

X & Y are often variable with different results with different resistance.
Pugix used 10k’s - wouldn’t hurt to experiment - in Rungling - Y is 10k, 22k, 47k, and 100k.

yessir!

Here’s some more info from Martin Freeman about that Spikering circuit, this is gold info and worth mentioning here :

"Spikering looks like sort of a hybrid between the Dogvoice and the Gong.

On the Spikering, check that the filter is working first as that’s a bit easier to grok. The “X” and “Y” resistors are confusing at first, but you can configure them a bunch of different ways:

For variable bandwidth (this is like the Gonzo mode on the Plumbutter Gongs), don’t populate “Y”, but populate the “X” resistor and make it 22K like the other 22K feeding the Transimpedance pin (Pin 1) on the other LM13700 OTA. Realistically, both “X” and the 22K can go as low as maybe 10K for extra range.

For classic variable cutoff frequency, populate “Y” and make it 22K (or see recs above about squeezing more range from the filter). Make “X” 4.7K, but connect one end of it to the PNP collector as per the PCB and the other end to Ground instead of the Transimpedance pin (Pin 16) on the OTA.

For a hybrid of the two, stuff both “X” and “Y”, make sure they’re both at least 10K.

More info about picking resistor values be found in the LM13700 datasheet.

The Pulse Generator is reminiscent of the Dogvoice in some ways. There are two simple high frequency sawtooth oscillators that feed an opamp rigged as a comparator. One has variable frequency and one is fixed (just like in the Dogvoice). The weird configuration of transistors fed by the comparator and another sawtooth oscillator (charged by the delay pot and discharged by the current sink) looks like an old school discrete RTL-style logic gate (I think NAND?). I think the collectors of the bottom too PNPs are pulses that are always opposite one another. So if you have a dual trace oscilloscope, you can see if this is working by observing that those outputs are giving you pulses that are always inverted relative to each other.

Things get weirder because one of the pulse outputs is fed back internally to the variable frequency sawtooth oscillator via the CHAO resistor. The CHAOS pot lets you tune in interference patterns between the two sawtooth oscillators. The node with the symbol will also affect the charge rate of the variable freq sawtooth oscillator."

To bypass the pulser and use as a conventional filter you can fit a switch -> “If you’re trying to use the two sections separately, just lift the leg of the 104 cap that connects to CHAO resistor and wire your jack/switch there.”

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Those dash lines caps are 472 caps.
Those caps are the integrators, meaning that the frequency of the filter is much higher than it should be [if using 102 or 103].

Other mods :
Lower the resistor from the Delay pot from 1M to 470K so that the pot would have an effect.
I followed Richards mods and used 10k for X and Y and also changed the wiper value on the delay pot. All my pots are 10k. I used a TL074 instead of 64. The electrolytics are 10uf.

Here’s the inputs and outputs

I think that Rungler pcb would be the perfect combo with Spikering although it works well with 6 and 5 rolls also but really needs some random CV for pitch

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1: 472’s :slight_smile:

  1. they’re seperate inputs

  2. 10k or 22k

  3. chaos i’ve used 220-470 to good results

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Putting Rungling and the 2-Roll LFO to work :smiley:

Could anyone point me to a thread about direct audio recording? lol - i just use a shitty little speaker and my ipad LOL…

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