#1741

Still thinking this one over, the tetrax is still appealing though due to the smaller footprint and additional shaping options.

I’m still not sure about the actual tetrax sound. The sidrax has 2 demos on the webpage, but the tetrax doesn’t. Does anyone have good examples of it that aren’t washed out in reverb that allow you to get a sense of the range of timbres?

#1742

Peter B made a YouTube demo of Tetrazzi

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#1743

Look up Scanner (Robin Rimbaud) on YouTube (heck, I think he even shared those videos in this very thread). I know he has quite a few Tetrax videos up. I had a tetrax and the sounds skew to the harsher side. I think the Sidrax doesn’t get quite as harsh, and is more for “beautiful” tones. I struggled with interfacing with the barres, and ended up selling my Tetrax. Now that I have a cocoquantus, I would consider getting a Sidrax at some point though, due to the modulation capabilities.

#1744

Just to have more modulation or are the modulation options different? It seems like tetrax would allow for more complex modulation due to the rise/fall knobs to shape the sound (although yes, less barres). I read something over on MW where the poster said they liked tetrax better for modulating coco.

Would sidrax have the ability to play lower tones or bass and tetrax higher notes? Still not sure of the range and the bass/melody explanations may be throwing me off.

#1745

The range of both goes very high and very low. The main difference in tone is triangles vs saws.

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#1747

I used to have a Sid. Sold it (stupidly) as I guess I didn’t «get» it. A couple of years later (after getting a CQ2) I lusted for one. But decided to go for the Tetrax instead. I have had zero regrets. Like you say the extra timbral possibilities are really nice. Also I found it easier to work with less bars. I don’t, however, use it to make chords etc. so I guess that if that’s what you want it is a bit limiting.
I find that there certainly are enough modulation options with both the Tetrax and the quantussy section on the coco (crosspatching).
I totally get your request for clean non reverb demos of the Tet. I don’t have any videos/audio at the moment, but I’ll try to record something this weekend (but I can’t promise anything). But I can tell you that I LOVE the sound of the tet. I don’t use any reverb, delays etc when playing it. It sounds so wonderful on it’s own😍

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#1748

Good points – and good question @Jonny. For the record, I have no plans of picking up a Sidrax (or Tetrax) in the near future. Plumbutter would likely be my next addition, gods willing. I was leaning toward Sidrax simply because I already had a Tetrax. I’d like to try out a different CL machine. However, after hearing the above comments about Tetrax, I shouldn’t count it out for such a silly reason. I actually just came across some samples I made of the Tetrax and they all sound really good and interesting. With some play money in the bank, I really shouldn’t start thinking about this right now… hahah :sweat_smile:

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#1749

hey plumbutter people! i was wondering if anyone has encountered this issue - the left gong isn’t coming through in the mixer.

it’s still giving an offbeat and orange output but it’s totally silent - everything else works fine, though. I was helping out a pal with a few fixes (banana jacks just needed some resoldering) but this issue is persistent and i can’t find a reason why.
any suggestions?

#1750

is the gonz/trad switch in the center position?

#1751

nope, in gonz and trade nothing shows up - adjusted the response knob too

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#1752

Here’s an example of tetrax timbres, totally clean of effects, but caveat: patched through a 4ms bend matrix (IMO, this only aided the fluidity of re-patching, the timbres are all available in the tetrax though)

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#1753

My experience is gestalt with these instruments, each one feeds the other. I use Coco Sid and PB and enjoy it as one bigger instrument, you can’t really go wrong.

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#1754

Post a picture of the unit so we can see the knob settings?

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#1756

I’ve been mildly fascinated/confounded by these instruments for years now, and something about the Plumbutter really clicked for me this week as something that’s kind of like a beautifully designed semi-modular, but somehow simultaneously less traditionally musical, more alien, and more alive/human. I need to free up some physical/psychic space via unused gear before I acquire anything else, though.

In the meantime, do the “paper circuit” instruments really have the same vibe? As in, could I really just go print out the Rollz-5 images, assemble them with $5-$10’ worth of components I probably already have laying around, and get some sweet circular modulation noises going? This seems magical to me.

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#1757

Rollz-5 is definitely worth taking a look at - both in paper, and pcb form :slight_smile:

Think of it as Plumbutter Super Lite. lol.

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#1758

The Rollz 5 is definitely worth building if you want a good taster for a Plumbutter. There are some slight differences but the concepts are essentially the exact same. It’s also something you don’t need to build fully in one go. Build and Odd and Even roll board and an Ultrasound and you can get cool stuff.

Been tempted recently to build two sets of Rollz to complement my PB.

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#1759

I have Coco, Sid and PB myself but haven’t really found a way to route or patch them all together. Care to share any patch/routing tips or concepts?

#1760

I don’t have anything particular but essentially PB and Sid are routed into the Coco, PB through stereo mini jack cable and Sid using a stereo to mono summing cable into the Coco Piezo. I find I have audio and CV on tap at the same time which is great for recording into the buffers with some FM modulation. I also like using the PB as a stereo filter, AV Dogs into Gongs is interesting.

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#1761

does anyone in here have any experience cross patching serge with c-l? i recently got a la bestia and am thinking i ought to try it with my sid ala this video

i’m a bit scared of voltage issues though. i have the r*s mobile psu whcih has a grounding banana jack to hook up ciat stuff to. if i do this should i be ok to patch freely between the two?

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