Good point. It’s not always easy to explain why some people prefer complex oscillators over simple ones, or why filters are ever-present in some rigs, and completely absent in others. “east” vs. “west” is admittedly contrived, but I do think it starts to get at some of the history of these differences. Whether that’s interesting to you is probably entirely personal.

i’ve been eyeing the lunchbox zissou for a while… dual 1u rows can get a lot done:
http://pulplogic.com/product/lunchbox-lbz54/

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@shellfritsch if you were to share a modulargrid rack, I imagine a lot of us could learn a lot from it!

EDIT: Although my case isn’t so small, I’m still really interested in this subject, because I’ve been trying to figure out the smallest number of modules I can buy to make an interesting start into eurorack, while also being a good “kernel” for a larger (208HP) system down the road. WIth an additional wrinkle that I’m not really interested in duplicating the functionality of my Nord Rack 3.

i know this comment is a little out of context, but while on tour brian he kind of blew my mind by making a “patch” with only 2 patch cables and 2 modules… just using a white whale flashed to kria firmware with one cable going into mutable instruments rings, and then one cable from rings to the audio out! so i was fantasizing about having a little case with only kria and rings in it! i don’t know why but it totally turned my thinking around about modular… and its exactly like everyone says in terms of figuring out what you want to do with it all. for me, those 2 cables and modules were totally enough. mostly because kria is so damn genius!!!

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That’s exactly the kind of thing I want to hear more about!

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I think it’s the limitless and flexible nature of modular. You essentially build your own instrument / effects processor. And can expand / modify as you see fit.

I think it’s the limitless and flexible nature of modular. You essentially build your own instrument / effects processor. And can expand / modify as you see fit.

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Yeah. That’s definitely in the plus column for modular. But do you need it? Are there aspects of your existing equipment that feel overly constrained in terms of architecture? If all of your existing equipment were already modular, where would you put your first patch cord?

Just trying to find any kind of direction for your starter system.

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This is extremely helpful @infovore. One of the main takeaways here is that the lunch box does not provide flexibility in terms of expansion.

Also, your emphasis on architecture is making me think about modular in a different way.

I will also say: it’s OK for your reasons to be “just because”. I ended up with one because I’m interested in synthesizers, and I write music, and I went from there.

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In my experience the one certainty of modular is that once you get your modules you will realize you need something else :slight_smile: I would say start small with the minimum that you find interesting and then see where you are running into limitation and then decide if/how you need to move beyond them. Get a bigger case so you can add a few more modules than your starting set.

infovore gave some great advice. I find it’s also interesting to figure out how you can use your existing modules in novel ways to perform functions that they aren’t explicitly tailored to.

Hmmm…need versus want…that’s always the question. I guess I feel a bit constrained by the linear nature of an MPC / SP-1200. A little more background on me: I am a child of early 90s hip-hop, so sampling and looping is second nature to me. But I also feel that it’s had its moment in time, so I am looking for a way to make beats that incorporate something more modern / interesting / complex.

I know I am not giving enough direction, but that’s kind of where I am at. I think I just need to start somewhere.

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Yes - I’ve definitely come to realize that from others’ experiences. Question: what case would you get that does not break the bank?

@c1t1zen’s battery-powered lunchbox

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well, I’m a bit biased since I work for a euro manufacturer :slight_smile: But I think the Intellijel 4U cases are are pretty reasonably priced. When I was starting out, I paid around $1000 US for a 6U 104 hp case.

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Yep - the monome modules are very ‘efficient’ in that they push their UI out to the grid, and give you multiple outputs for sending gates/voltages (dependent on modules) - but also, because their complexity is in software, they let you do a lot with even a single trigger line.

And Rings is unusual in that it’s a resonator, rather than an oscillator, meaning that you don’t really need the traditional signal path after it - you can get away without a VCA/Envelope/Filter, and instead shape the sound entirely inside it. A particular range of sounds, sure, and you kind have to like plucking/ringing (which I do), but makes it an interesting source for tiny kits. Also: very much not your traditional “analogue” oscillator.

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thanks! these issues are important in artistic creation,
modular or not
many times it seems like all the gear doesn’t fit into the rack ->https://vimeo.com/137408958
imho, this is not important, the sounds/music are important
we set parameters for ourselves as 'composers/artists, and then create
ie. define your desire/project: album, ep, single, sounds, soundcloud, bandcamp, radio, show on the road…
then, based on what you’ve defined, plug it into your mixer and make it :slight_smile:
personally, making a track, with just an sp12 and a moog sounds fun
and/or put a modular rack together:)
@disquiet has parameters for you every week, if you’d like

Music That Emerges from a Drone (Disquiet Junto Project 0240)

of course, it’s up to you…

four tet droppin’ science…


'it sounds really, really nice to not just have everything coming from one source -four tet

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I just took my first step: purchased a Pittsburgh 90 case.

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