#19

thank you tehn that is promising news! I saw that mentioned on the site but assumed 10.8 was new enough. I will try that when I get home!

#20

just quickly installed it on my lunchbreak. YES it connects now!
thanks so much!
while I have you here, can you point me in the right direction for using monome with ableton Live 9?

theres a million different threads online saying different things over the years and a lot of the links to official monome resources are broken. I’m wondering where you would suggest I look for the most current documentation on using the monome with live.

some people say you need LiveOSC or “Pages” or “zeroconf” and its not really clear where to start.

specifically I’m interested in MLR style devices in ableton so I have downloaded “re:mix” and “clip chopper” devices that I want to experiment with once Ive got everything set up.
Thanks again!

#21

Monome and Ableton: the most reliable things are terms and pages

I’ve found clip chopper temperamental and I think it runs monomeserial (an outdated way of connecting the monome) so it will be trickier to get to work. Re:mix is amazing and deep.

#22

thank you for the insight declutter! i will look into installing those tonight and hopefully be on my way :smile:

I mentioned clip chopper because i saw a youtube video of someone using it and it looked intuitive and fun. im mainly interested in using the monome for “live chopping”. ie, not having to pre-determine and convert start and end points for cutting samples (“convert slices to midi” in ableton).

#23

terms is newly updated and the docs are solid!

#24

I’d say remix is your best bet then; and learning how to sample into remix live as part of your set.

#25

thanks guys, letting you know i got it working with ableton. just messing with the terms step sequencer so far, but i’ll check out the others such as remix soon. exciting stuff!

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#26

@tehn I’m having the same uncooperative “serialosc” issue again. I’d been only using the monome on my laptop (which works great) but am now trying to get it to work on my desktop and it isn’t working.
On my laptop I have two “serialosc” instances in my activity monitor, and a third pops up when I plug in the monome (and it works). My desktop computer, on the other hand, displays the two “serialosc” instances but a third does NOT appear when I plug in monome. Monome wont connect to any of my max devices in Live.

both computers are using Live 9.6 / 64bit. The only real difference I can think of is that my desktop’s OSX is slightly newer (10.9.5 as opposed to the laptops 10.8.5). I had installed everything mentioned in this thread months ago on both computers, but I never really used the monome on desktop til now.

I went through your steps in this thread and noticed you mentioned the FTDI driver so I went to that page and saw there was a different version for OSX 10.9. I assumed that may be the problem and installed it and restarted. No luck. Then I reinstalled serial OSX using the link above and restarted. Still no luck.

Any suggestions? The monome itself works great on the laptop, I’m sure its just this serialosc issue…

#27

try this:

install serialosc 1.4

remove the FTDI driver (as there’s an apple-supplied one now)

/System/Library/Extensions/FTDIUSBSerialDriver.kext

reboot and hopefully you’ll be good

#28

Thank you for your reply

  • I removed the FTDI driver
  • Installed serialosc 1.4 (but it didnt fix it)
  • Uninstalled serialosc using the uninstaller command (then checked and no serialosc showed in activity monitor)
  • Installed serialosc 1.4 again

now “serialosc” and “serialosc-detector” are always in the activity monitor. But there is no change when I plug in the monome and Ableton still does not connect with it. I also tried different USB cables including one that worked with the laptop.

any more ideas?

#29

open a terminal with the grid plugged in. type:

ls -lrt /dev

at the bottom you should see your monome device string, something like

tty.usbserial-m0000002

yes?

#30

they actually dont show up my activity monitor. However, when testing the same monome and usb cable on my laptop (the computer that I previously used monome on) these two do show up:
cu.usbserial-m64-1201
tty.usbserial-m64-1201

not sure if it matters, but the monome i am using is a grayscale 64 with white LEDs (though originally in this thread I had the bulkier 40h version)

#31

perhaps I need to upgrade to El Capitan? maybe that would fix it

#32

I can confirm the computer sees the monome because it appears in the OSX System Information utility (formally System Profiler).

monome 64:

Product ID: 0x6001
Vendor ID: 0x0403 (Future Technology Devices International Limited)
Version: 6.00
Serial Number: m64-1201
Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: monome
Location ID: 0x20100000 / 19
Current Available (mA): 500
Current Required (mA): 90

#33

that looks correct. which computer is this? it should show up in the terminal if this is detected in the profiler.

all devices should work fine. grayscale included.

#34

First I wanted to say thank you for taking to the time to help me with this.

This is the desktop (mac pro 2013, 10.9.5 osx, 3.7 GHz Quad), the problematic computer that the monome is not displaying on. But clearly I can see is connected and recognized. I know what to look for on the terminal because it displayed on the laptop, but I am not seeing it here, even though it appears perfectly normal in the System Information utility.

Not sure if this is relevant to the issue, but I realized the serialosc uninstaller was not working for me. It said something failed or didnt have permission, etc. I looked at the file location in the Launch Agents and the file was still there after I tried uninstalling again. I thought that would be the solution, that I could just delete it manually and try again.
I started over testing both versions of serialosc after manually deleting the file each time, but never had any luck having it display in the terminal. The one difference is that one of the versions of serialosc showed a “serial osc detector” in the activity monitor, as opposed to just two instances of serialosc.

#35

serialosc 1.4 will automatically uninstall previous versions. definitely use 1.4

with a new install of 1.4 and a restart, do you see serialosc tasks in the activity monitor?

it’s good that at least the FTDI driver seems to be working by detecting it in the terminal.

lastly, i want to rule out a max for live issue. can you test with max 7, using the monome package (from the package manager) using grid-test?

#36

Without doing any uninstalling or deleting files, I just installed serialosc 1.4 again and restarted.

I see serialoscd and serialosc-detector in the activity monitor (both are there no matter if monome is plugged in or not).

Monome still shows up in System Profiler, but not in the Terminal.

I am not sure what the monome package/manager/grid-test is, but I opened Monome Home and no devices were shown.

#37

augh. time to install the newest FTDI driver:

http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP/MacOSX/FTDIUSBSerialDriver_v2_3.dmg

monome home is fine to test.

#38

just installed that and restarted.
FTDIUSBSerialDriver.kext shows up in my extensions now.

Still no luck in monome home or in the terminal.
:worried: