i want to point out!

the screen does not flicker one bit. it’s totally solid and beautiful. the minor flickering in the video is an artifact of making video.

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i was gonna ask if there’s anywhere I could find info about this syntax (until the manual is out)

that wiki link is gold

also in the comments section of the recent [CDM write-up][1]
there’s a gentleman who brings up a valid point about cables blocking the screen

what has your experience been regarding this (possible) issue?
is that why the space above the screen isn’t as crammed full of i/o jacks as it could be?
[1]: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2015/06/teletype-eurorack-monome-nerdiest-module-ever/#more-37943

i’m not sure this is much different than any situation where cables are in the way. if you’re using a 3U system i don’t expect there to be a problem. if you’re using 6U, put teletype on the bottom, so cables are generally going upwards or sideways. with my 3U i’ve had absolutely no trouble (see the vid, i used almost every jack.)

a solution is perhaps to use longer cables, if there is an issue, where you can “steer” them away from the screen.

but i’m up for suggestions as well. i specifically didn’t put jacks both on top of and below the screen for this reason.

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i’m kinda tempted to just put the keyboard in a skiff as well :smile:

will probably use cell48 case (wish it was slimmer though, are there any skiffs that are smaller than 84hp other than cell48?) as a teletype based controller that could be moved around. using pressure points to trigger stuff and shortbus can be used to combine triggers or combine individual pressure outs and send them to TT CV in.

I have no idea how complicated this would be (it would probably mean an alt. firmware that flips the display ), but some manufacturers (I am specifically thinking of Intellijel Planar module) offer alternate panels flipped upside down. In larger systems I can imagine people wanting this module either at the bottom, where current layout would work just fine. Or at the top row, where having a flipped option would be ideal, as all cables would pull down. Since this is not a “hands on” controller, I can see how some would want it at the top, saving the bottom row for things that are designed for heavy hand manipulation (Pressure Points, Teleplexer, etc.)

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this is a great idea if easily doable via firmware - don’t think you would even need to flip the panel itself, it’s easy to remember. probably would want to also programmatically change the order of the inputs/outputs.

I think a lot of this discussion comes down to the Skiff vs. Upright discussion. In a skiff you want the visual & tactile elements at the bottom so you can push the cables away from you and play the synthesizer - hence screen at the bottom. In upright the cables obviously hang down with gravity which suggests screen at top.

From my perspective it seems like the skiff is more ‘instrumental’, not to mention rapidly increasing in popularity which informs some of the reasoning behind the location. We had many a long discussion about the best location / orientation of the screen & jacks, and this is where we landed as the best compromise.

I appreciate the idea of flipping the module and having it in the top row of you case, but then you have the issue of the keyboard being awkwardly far from the screen which can be awkward, particularly if you don’t touch type.

I applaud the decision to put the inputs and outputs at the top, and not just for a skiff. With the Orthogonal Devices ER-101, I’m always struggling to reach the controls, even with long patch cables. For the moment, though, I think I’ll be putting the Teletype in a 3U, with some Mutable Instruments, so unfortunately the cables are going to go from the top of TT top to bottom of Braids and Elements.
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/182631


Anyway, not that they’re necessarily the best companions (I don’t know yet), but for some basic Teletype ‘programming’ I think they could produce immediate results, to then connect to my 12U. (And no, I’m not using two Switches, it’s just that I couldn’t find Walk yet in Modular Grid).

i was using switch as a place holder too until some vandal uploaded walk

i’ll get good images up for tele/walk on modulargrid soon enough, sorry for the delay.

docs are substantially updated:

http://monome.org/docs/modular/teletype

but still have a ways to go.

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those are fine
folks basically just want a general idea of how it will fit…higher res is nice but not necessary

far more critical to get the docs (and modules themselves) out
which you have

so thanks!

also WOW

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This might be a stupid question, but are the behind the panel ribbon connections only for sending commands from TT or can TT receive triggers on these connections also? I.e. could you have MP connected only over ribbon (seems unlikely) or do you have to use patch cables? Would this depend on a MP update to output the triggers over the ribbon connection (if even possible)? I only ask in light of the discussion re: hanging cables and blocking controls, and it seems like TT & MP would be paired enough that desired behavior might be if the triggers could be normalized to MP via ribbon connection until something else is plugged in one of the 8 trigger ins (again, if that’s even possible).

I also saw a trick in a video with Alessandro Cortini (I’m sure many of you have seen as well) where he bunches up the cable slack and uses a rubber band or elastic to hold the bunch, so it just sits up and out of the way from controls and jacks. He does this with every cable or group of cables that has enough slack. Simple but useful.

we’ve discussed this and like the idea, but it’ll likely make it into a v2 firmware.

but that might not be far off!

The other trick I’ve seen used by a few people is to braid the patch cables. Obviously this only works if you’re not planning on changing the patch that often.

Yes, for a deeper sync. I think the problem is that the ES pattern recorder is not laid out to be clockable, therefor the workaround with the Reset. Maybe there’s a way to update ES’s firmware? But I would really love to see a way to sync the Arp mode, even it’ll be done with some kind of quantizing, restricting the notes to certain rythms perhaps à la Press Café…

this thing looks so amazing!

all trilogy modules require an update for use with teletype.

i’m working on a clock sync system for ES. it’ll mean issuing a command to ES toggling “external” sync. and then individual clock message will trigger the pattern progression.

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Any noticeable noise from that oled? You guys tried it in many different cases?