Yes I agree. The matriarch actually has a better tone! It is the ultimate- and a freaking hate when folks say that lol

Really great sound, I’d be concerned about travelling and gigging with it though, as it would be convenient to keep it patched. Maybe more of a studio piece.

I guess the one is more practical for the gigs haha

Totally, I actually think the new Minotaur update is perfect for gigging.

In regards to my above post on recreating the last patch from the matriarch demo on the moog voyager rme.

Factory patch F58, ā€˜mysterious flute’ comes pretty close. I increased the glide setting and increased the filter spacing and it gets closer. Sent that to a delay line on a Korg Triton Rack via the analog inputs (that’s my go to multi fx unit).

Now have to work on adding more grit and adding modulated noise.

There’s just something about that tone in conjunction with the chords and timing that Sarah S created that is really striking.

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Noticed that online retailers have changed their ship dates to 10/7. Kinda feels like they might have had to slow things down for production/quality reasons? I don’t mind waiting as long as it’s solid :grin:

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honestly, that gives me more time to save :slight_smile:
Maybe i’ll be able to afford one around release if thats the case!

The Matriarch sounds lovely. I wonder what the gate outputs from the keybed are like (if any). I am hoping there are four of them. I cannot find any high-res photos. I ask because it would be wonderful to add two more envelopes from a near by modular and have something even closer to polyphony.

Edit: It seems like the Matriarch only has one keybed gate out on the back. No problem though - one could always use a sequential switch and two additional envelopes to get an envelop per osc (although not sure how the sustain stage of the envelopes would work).

Also, I do wish we would see more synths like the Matriarch with multiple oscillators (almost voices) that integrate with eurorack. Can anyone think of anything similar?

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It is not as closely integrated in regards to Eurorack, but the Vermona Perfourmer has four (true) voices that you can route freely. I foolishly sold mine in a downsizing phase but had it for years and almost always routed individual voices into my modular.

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Still to this day my go to synth, even after several additions. There’s something so loveable about it, so simple and straightforward. On the definitive wouldn’t-sell list. End of the off topic, it’s just nice to remind myself I don’t need a matriarch (I don’t right? I don’t.).

Correct, we don’t need any of this high tech electronic gear to make music.

However life is short and synths are fun.

In regards to my modified factory voyager patch, the erica synths fusion delay ensemble adds the necessary grit and this patch below adds a good modulated noise wave.

Next, port the flute patch to the moog slim phatty rack to add the duophonic chord capability.

(Yes, moog synths are fun)

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Been soaking up loopop’s Matriarch review:

I’m not eager to pick up a big honking flagship synth by any means, but goddamn does it sound lovely. The stereo aspects weren’t even on my radar until this video but now they seem central to the magic. Stereo filters, stereo VCAs, stereo delays. I’m loving some of the binaural filtering, stereophonic oscillation, and audio-rate panning drones (around 37:30-38:30, for example) he achieves pretty effortlessly. Ear-fuckingly gorgeous! At the very least this inspires me to look more seriously into the possibilities of stereo signal paths in modular (Make Noise is obviously thinking along those lines these days).

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Mine shipped from GC a couple days ago and should arrive on Monday. I’m bummed that my new job has me so busy; I’d love to geek tf out on this thing for days.

Of course I’m already thinking how to split those four oscillators off into true-ish poly (articulated notes but all going through the matriarch’s two filters + delay at the end). I used to have a voyager and in addition to that wicked touchpad (which has no equivalent in euro, unfortunately—it’s a true voltage plate like a pressure points, but on an xy axis as well with the ability to hold xy location), I reallllly miss that stereo filter. Hoping this is a good replacement.

I think midi out is going to be my friend there in terms of getting individual gate trigs. I plan on sending the midi to the expert sleepers FH-2 set up to output four voices of gate/note. From there, I should be able to scrounge enough envelopes and vca’s from my system to make the magic happen.

I’m most curious about the delay, though. I sold my moogerfooger 104m for $700 like a fool, now they are hitting around $2k on the used market. Midi clock = musical time/pitch relationships when you sweep the time knob (!!!). Bliss.
The matriarch delay is only 700 ms compared to the longer time of the MF-104m, but i’m hoping it gets close. I see in the manual that you can adjust the color of the delay via an os setting (only two options, dark and bright, unfortunately).

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Mine is here, but I’m so incredibly jet lagged I’m unable to form too many coherent thoughts on it so far. It’s definitely incredibly deep, and despite being intimately familiar with modular synths, patching this thing up feels like a bit more of a challenge so far. I will say that it’s a bit annoying to have some useful jacks on the back of the unit, I might make some little labels for the jacks to stick on the back of the face so I don’t have to slide the unit around to read the labels.

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Finally got a chance to play mine tonight.
I’d echo the need for a little DIY labeling solution. Def wish those jacks were on the main panel but:
ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

I am so, so happy to report that the delay is everything I hoped for and more. Being able to both tap the tempo AND have the pitch/time divisions follow that tapped tempo is actually one step up from the moogerfooger midi delay, IMO, bc that unit requires an external midi signal to get that time division (and its oh-so-sexy harmonic pitch relationships).

For my use cases, the delay alone is worth the price of admission.

I also note that the oscillator frequency knobs are very easy to play by hand in (western) musical ways. They don’t audibly snap to quantized pitches at all, but I’ll be damned if I wasn’t landing on clean 2nds, 5ths, etc. with relative ease. Some very impressive calibration voodoo in there it seems, like a dead zone in the trim pot around those frequencies maybe.

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I believe you can change the range of the frequency pots via the settings, so they must be scanned by the CPU and not directly connected to the oscillators, so it seems it would be possible they put in some deadzones around certain intervals.

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Finally had a little bit of time to make a clip of the matriarch tonight. Just the Matriarch first, then I increase the mix on Mimeophon :slight_smile:

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For those like me who are very interested but on the fence in terms of buying, this section of a recent Andertons video is a really great demonstration of it as a spacey, beautiful drone device (hopefully it’ll cue to the right time, 34:17):

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@midilifestyle Have you tried using MIDI out yet? I’m having issues getting the Matriarch to send MIDI when the arp/seq are running.

I haven’t tried that exactly, no.
I’ve encountered a few weird surprises with the midi, though. Sending it a midi clock from an MPC X and syncing the delay to that sync makes the delay time shimmy all over the place, for one.
The firmware in general seems underdone. Clock sync in general seems ridiculous. The octave switching via the key combo on the matriarch (which is a stupid key combo, btw, not ergonomic or fast for live octave changes at all) is sporadic. I’ve been emailing Moog and they’re aware.

The synth is ridiculously good as a purely analog beast, though, and it’s more than a blast. Other fun things I’ve found: cv modulation to oscillator one is internally normalled to the next three oscs. This means that playing with the octave of oscillator one (using a disting in precision added mode) changes the octaves of all four oscs. That plus the delay and I’m 90% of my way to the dream poly(ish) synth I’ve wanted for years.

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I finally got a chance to play around with the Matriarch. It is pretty incredible, and somewhat unpredictable in a fun way (esp. the delay and the voice modes). Kind of want to take a stab at making a piece in drone mode, which is way outside my comfort zone. Also nice to see that the Subsequent 37 stacks up well against it.

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