#36

Same! I experimented a lot with this yesterday. The best results were if I set the attenuverter for the varispeed full CCW, but then the patterns obviously is bi-directional. I have to dive back into it today, it was a total blast with these new options. Any other cool discoveries?

#37

holy yes i’m trying this as soon as I get home, is it just a regular vocal sample ?

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#38

Yeah, pretty much! A folk song with some vocals and harpsichord or something. Super cool sequencing stuff like this with Kria as well!

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#39

i was picturing that exact kind of sound for a song i’m working on and didn’t find a convicing result, i’ll have a go at it again :slight_smile:

#40

Best of luck! Hope to hear the result : - )

#41

been playing around with using batumi as a modulation source for slide and organize controls. using self-patching on the batumi provides some nice semi-random feedback in the parameter modulation.

also, kinda obvious, but clouds after morphagene is a beautiful thing. these three modules are capable of producing hours of variations on a few simple splices.

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#42

Wonderful work as always @josephbranciforte!

I have to say I’ve got the morphagene bug. I am super wary about investing in eurorack–seems like a minimum investment of 1.5k or so, even for a little lunchbox.

Question along those lines–putting aside the physical form factor, working with constraints, getting out of the box, and all that (important) stuff–is there significant different between what morphagene does and what an m4l granular looping device such as Samsara does? https://isotonikstudios.com/product/samsara-customized-granular-looping/. Provided that I can use other m4l modulation sources? Am I missing something that morphagene does that software doesn’t really do, sound wise?

Obviously $20 vs. $500 + PSU + Case + Complementary modules is a consideration :wink:

#43

… + a $2000 laptop. that m4l device looks great, and if you’re going to have a laptop onstage, then I’d absolutely give that a shot before taking the plunge on a system. this is more or less the case with many dsp-based modules, since the argument is inevitably “why couldn’t I just run a similar piece of software on a laptop?” - you absolutely could, go for it! this isn’t really the thread to have that debate.

I’d also direct you to @zebra’s episode of sound and process, where that idea (using pd or similar instead of dsp modules) is discussed at length.

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#44

Thanks @madeofoak! Not trying to stir the debate writ large, I get it–just wondering in particular about what I understand of what morphagene can do specifically. So I hope to keep this thread about morphagene, really :wink:

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#45

I just upgraded my Morphagene to mg155 and I put the upgrade file in dropbox to then load up on my phone, connected the left input to my phone out (good thing I have a phone with a headphone jack!), initiated the upgrade sequence with the various upgrade button combinations, waited the 2+ minutes for the audio upgrade file to play, then ran the boot and install sequence with the other button combinations to finalize it. I even printed out the instructions on a piece of paper (I had to reduce the font size to make it fit on one page).

The entire time I was going through the process I was staring at the SD card slot thinking “Why couldn’t I just load the firmware upgrade onto this perfectly viable memory card and then on boot the MG sees the new firmware, handles the upgrade automatically, flashes it’s light to tell me it’s done, and then I power down and power back on and go on my way.”

As a software engineer I’m always thinking what could be easier for the user vs the craziness of playing an audio file into the audio input to handle the upgrade when a perfectly good memory card slot is present.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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#46

I was also surprised that they don’t offer upgrade via SD card, simply for the sheer volume of support calls they’d probably avoid.

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#47

yes, morphagene and samsara are pretty different algorithms and feature sets.

literally: no, morphagene is a computer running software.

in practice: if you are talking about m4l specifically then i think it would be very challenging to implement a perfect morphagene clone in that environment. (or in general - it’s a very carefully engineered device.)

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#48

I’ve been around the block on this question a few times…with Morphagene and just about any digital module I own. Really, what’s the point if I can recreate it in software? I guess I like the knobs and CV control. The choice of blinking lights is also very nice.

I chalked it up to something to do with the amount of software necessary to read from the SD card in some sort of boot loader situation, but it seems weird to me too. My guess is they’re using the Mutable Instruments bootloader sound file thingee. :man_shrugging: no idea (wish MN was into open source the way MI and monome are so that we could see why they chose to do it this way), but it’s not the only module that updates firmware this way.

#49

Seems to me that implementing MG in software form for pc would require lots of work in order to get the same versatility/control over the module as with the “physical version” (in the sense of the size it would take in your pc, the cost, the manipulation of multiple parameters at the same time, precision, etc).

And I guess that’s also the reason for other digital modules to be released in eurorack form instead of straight software. It looks like it would be so costly to make… why not give it a body if it represents an extra of accessibility for your instrument?

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#50

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here’s a little Morphagene system I put together last night. Will probably take out the joystick as the arc is plenty of manual control already. Cycles and Levels both pair excellently with Morphagene. A Cycles ramp into the Slide input is a great way to scrub through a splice!

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#51

God I forgot how badly I want an arc…

#52

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi6P2sula2m/

morphagene and arc

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#53

as soon as i get a second power module i’m planning this
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/668422
plus arc

#54

tried to make a video condensing the process of sampling a note from OP-1 into Morphagene and then sequencing it using Levels within instagram’s one minute video limit :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BjEmMvVFObw/

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#55

posted another vid with my morphagene system, using Levels/Arc

https://instagram.com/p/BjXmrvLlxg0/

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